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Days after Ghislaine Maxwell asked a judge to immediately free her from a 20-year prison sentence, the public release of grand jury transcripts from her sex trafficking case returned the spotlight to victims whose allegations helped land her behind bars.

The disclosure of the transcripts as part of the Justice Department’s ongoing release of its investigative files on Maxwell and the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein exposed how an FBI agent told grand jurors about Maxwell’s critical role in Epstein’s decades-long sexual abuse of girls and young women.

Maxwell, a British socialite and publishing heir, was convicted of sex trafficking in December 2021 after four women told a federal jury in New York City about how she and Epstein abused them in the 1990s and early 2000s. Epstein never went to trial. He was arrested in July 2019 on sex trafficking charges and killed himself a month later in his cell at a Manhattan federal jail.

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 121 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's a reason she was convicted and went to jail.

And that same reason is why Trump and his admin are trying very hard to whitewash and downplay her crimes.

The statement Epstein "killed himself" used in the article has still never been proven adequately. He was on suicide watch (found partially conscious just months beforehand, again no evidence it was by his own hands) and moved to another more secure cell - and there were four cameras pointed toward his cell that would have provided valuable evidence, two were 'accidentally deleted' and one was also lost as its video provided to investigators was 'accidentally' from the wrong section of the jail that looked identical, the original correct video deleted in the meantime before this accident was identified ('oh gosh, whoopsie again'). The guards have been prosecuted for lying to investigators about their whereabouts during his death and falaifying claims he was checked on the mandated schedule.

Sure are a lot of 'accidental' evidence deletions, false evidence, and lying guards in this story to take the Trump-admin led investigation (his fucking co-conspirator) at face value. Any genuine investigation would have to say "based on the evidence, cause of death is inconclusive".

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

And all of it could be attributed to typical jailhouse incompetence/corruption. I wanted to believe it, until the recent email from Epstein to Nasser is which he implicates Trump as another guy who likes nubile young girls like they do. He also opens the email by saying that he's chosen to take the "short route home," seemingly indicating he intended to commit suicide.

If you believe he was murdered, them you can't believe the email in which Epstein flat-out implicates Trump as being the same as him and Nasser.

I want to believe the email, so I choose to believe that Epstein killed himself.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Short route home could have been squealing like a pig.

He could have been simultaneously considering suicide and brutally strangled.

[–] Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Yeah, based on that email I now think it's more likely that Epstein killed himself but bribed the shit out of the guards in order to be able to do it. It certainly seems to be true that putting Epstein into a jail cell historically looked the same: a rich guy trying to minimise the impact and his accountability of his crimes through bribery ans corruption. I see no reason he wouldm't have done the same here.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've been paying attention but have not heard about any Epstein email that references himself, Turmp, and Nasser. A brief look through the DoJ portal doesn't cough anything up. Can you provide a link, or tell us more so we can find it ourselves? Thanks.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Epstein Said Trump Shared Love of Young Girls in Apparent Suicide Note

“Good luck! We shared one thing… our love and caring for young ladies and the hope they’d reach their full potential. Our president also shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to ‘grab snatch,’ whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system. Life is unfair,” he continued, signing off “J. Epstein.”

The "grab'em by the pussy" boast seemed like phony bragging at the time, but now it's looking like suddenly grabbing an unsuspecting woman by her crotch is his signature move. Charming.

Of course, the DoJ is now claiming that it's a fake, but nothing in the letter sounds implausible AT ALL, and it sure sounds like the FBI is backpedaling after this finally getting attention, after being out there since 2023.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, right. I knew about the letter, but thought you were talking about an email. Yeah, the letter could go either way, IMO; the most sus thing about it is the good handwriting and perfect spelling, but he had visitors daily, including his legal team, and anyone could have written it for him if his hands were shaking or for whatever reason he wanted to dictate and not write. In addition, the BoP has has possession of it for over six years now and it remains in the DoJ files: if it had ever been credibly proven fake in the feds' own estimation it would have been noted as such at the time. Thanks for your response.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah, I mischaracterized it as an email, probably because I had just read about Prince Amdrew's E-MAIL to Maxwell, inquiring if she currently had any "inappropriate friends" for him.

[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 70 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nobody is confused about Maxwell’s guilt except some maga traitors and their 80 IQ followers

[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's more likely closer to room temperature

[–] LSNLDN@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 months ago

And not in American units either

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 months ago
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They aren't confused, they're Pedophiles. ALL MAGAs are Pedophiles.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Is it an unfortunate surname? Why the capital letter?

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 62 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

if you weren't aware, and would like yet another reason to hate her: the reason she's filthy rich is because her father robert invented the bullshit predatory academic publishing business model

[–] VeganBtw@piefed.social 38 points 3 months ago

Generations of human waste

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 6 points 3 months ago

like father like daughter

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was arrested in July 2019 on sex trafficking charges and killed himself a month later in his cell at a Manhattan federal jail.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 3 months ago

Missed opportunity, should've been hanged around the neck.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

lol the bitch fled, wore a disguise, and FBI (when under legitimate direction) rooted her out. Not too many innocent people go into hiding for 3 years.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That can change! We're already deporting US citizens who can't prove they're citizens because they get no trial and ICE doesn't allow them to present their driver's license, birth certificate, or passport.

So far their only consideration seems to be skin color and tattoos. Let's see how far that goes if you annoy them too much.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

He was arrested in July 2019 on sex trafficking charges and killed himself a month later in his cell at a Manhattan federal jail.

According to one of the Epstein files, Epstien's brother claims Trump ordered the hit.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She gonna get pardoned by 2Q 2026, mark my words.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, Trump will resign along with the rest of the pedos after pardoning everyone involved, leading to a wave of vacancies quickly filled by progressives, who ignore the pardons and dismantle the global conspiracy of pedos controlling the world

It's Christmas, leave room for a miracle

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

Please smite the Pedos Odin! Thank you.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Just a reminder that Maxwell's criminal trial transcripts are online as a part of the Epstein files release:

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/court-records/united-states-v-maxwell-no-120-cr-00330-sdny-2020

If you've never read a jury trial transcript before, try it, they're very readable and usually in doublespaced lines, as these are. If you want to skip all the lawyer stuff, search for the word jury to find where the jury is excused and then brought back in.

I've been reading these and many of the other related filings, and what has been most striking to me is the depth and breadth of the corruption throughout the legal arm of the state of Florida, and how it wasn't the cops but the US Attorneys and their counterparts who consistently worked much harder to hide and minimize evidence and help the defendant avoid real prosecution than they ever did to bring an obvious criminal to justice.

This happened countless times, not only in 2007/2008 when the US Attorney's Office from the Southern District of Florida were working directly with Epstein's lawyers to find him a misdemeanor he could plead to in order to keep it all quiet, and actively planning with each other how to downplay the number of victims so that the judge wouldn't notice it wasn't just one girl in order to get the non-prosecution agreement approved, but the extent to which they all worked together -- Epstein, his attorneys, AND the state of Florida -- to hide what they were doing from the court and from the victims themselves, in open violation of federal law, so that Epstein could walk away with a slap on the wrist and neither the victims nor their attorneys would have the opportunity to shoot down that sweetheart deal.

These ADAs were so corrupt that they even had FBI agents meet with three of the known 34 victims the day AFTER Epstein had signed the non-prosecution agreement just to create the appearance of an ongoing investigation, when in reality it was already well closed and this was only a containment effort.

And all of this is in the files. Not some reporter's quick skim, but the actual emails*** where the AUSAs are pandering to Epstein's legal team so as to accommodate all their requirements and requests in regard to keeping Epstein happy and out of jail. It's sickening as fuck to see the actual letters and emails of the people society entrusts with prosecuting crime working hand in hand with this criminal to evade even the appearance of justice.

Keep in mind that Pam Bondi was the state Attorney General in Florida from 2011 to 2019, so she was a big part of this ongoing effort to keep Epstein out of jail in Florida as well.

Similarly, when Epstein was finally arrested in 2019 in New York (United States v. Epstein, No. 1:19-cr-00490 (S.D.N.Y. 2019)) his attorneys tried a similar song and dance in their efforts to get him pretrial release, but this time the judge shot them down. This included one assistant US Attorney who tried to downplay Epstein's sexual offender rating so that Epstein could avoid remand, but instead of the friendly cooperation that got in Florida, this attorney got an earful from the judge for it. It was great to see. All of the NY pretrial stuff is pretty juicy, like where his attorneys are continually hiding any real description of his assets but asking that the judge release him on bail anyway and the judge is calling it out: the real joy is watching his attorneys repeatedly lie and get shot down for it.

Another thing that is in the court records are the deposition transcripts, where victims are interviewed under oath, many for the defamation case brought by Virginia Giuffre against Ghislane Maxwell. The defendants paid teams of attorneys to just verbally batter these woman, but they held strong. A good example of this was the deposition of Sarah Ransome, and separately the deposition of Virginia Giuffre herself, where after being strong-armed by the defendant's attorney to give info on another underage victim, her own attorney tells her not to answer, and the interrogating attorney actually uses this verbal pressure as a threat (page 33; I've added the implied names):

MS. MCCAWLEY (Virginia's attorney): Sure. With respect to [redacted] because she was an underaged victim at the time, I'm instructing you not to answer questions with respect to her other than identifying her as being one of the victims involved.

MS. BORJA (Dershowitz's attorney): Q. Are you going to follow your counsel's instructions?

MS. GIUFFRE: A. Absolutely.

MS. BORJA: Q. And you understand that we're going to reserve the right to bring you back for another deposition in the event that the judge overrules your counsel's objections. Do you still want to keep abiding by those?

This is the threat: after what looks like around an hour of repeated arguing, the deposing attorney is challenging Virginia's decision to take her own attorney's advice, in effect saying, "Are you sure? Because we can and will bring you back for this and more of the same." Whereupon Virginia replies,

MS. GIUFFRE: A. Go for it.

These women are fierce, but they had to endure FAR more from the defendants and their combined armies of attorneys than anyone is talking about. This verbal harassment went on to such a degree, especially for Sarah Ransome, that Virginia's attorney submitted a separate filing just to address this and ask the judge to order the deposing attorneys to lay off.

TL;DR: If you haven't looked through the court files but you're curious, they are full of surprises. And you don't have to be an attorney to read and make sense of them.

***These emails and letters are exhibits from the CVRA lawsuit brought against the government in 2016 by Brad Edwards, one of the attorneys representing the victims. To view them, look at all the pdfs that have 361 and 362 in the name: 361 and 362 are the actual complaint, and all of the 361-xx and 362.xx pdfs following are the exhibits to that complaint, including the letters and emails.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She did say new evidence had come out.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 28 points 3 months ago

New evidence like the email where Prince Andrew asks her if she has any "inappropriate friends" available, and she responds that she only has "appropriate friends" at the moment.

Pervoid kiddie fuckers.