Now will BA pay Louis Theroux for his podcast?
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Bob Vylan is Punk! Death to the idf
Death to the IDF 🎶
Any reason why this group of people gets so much more protection than others?
We can criticize just about anyone, but when it comes to Jews it's off-limits.
I think that's kind of unfair and bullshit. They shouldn't have this power over us.
No. This is about the Israeli Defense Force.
Because 6 million of them were exterminated in WWII and they have faced centuries of blood libel and hatred.
Don't confuse hating what Israel is doing with attacking "the Jews". Totally different topic.
But it's okay to say christianity is a death cult?
Also, I disagree that Jews are immune to criticism for the reasons you stated. Literally every group of people has faced persecution throughout history, including christians. That doesn't mean we can't criticize them.
Unfortunately, you're probably going to ban me just because of my previous passage, proving my point.
Nobody should be immune to criticism. But you should criticise people for their actions, not their being. I hate the Israeli state, not because they're Jewish, but because of their actions in gaza.
Unfortunately, you're probably going to ban me just because of my previous passage, proving my point.
Oh stop predicting a not yet existing victim state.
It's not about protecting jews it is about protecting zionists. There are anti israel jews that are forcefully arrested
Got this lovely message shortly after making this comment:
Make sure you report that PM.
What the?
I agree with you
What I love is the wording of this. They said the case wasn't moving forwards because of a "lack of evidence". Not that there was no crime committed.
The whole thing was filmed and broadcast on TV. Exactly what extra evidence was needed to bring this to court?
Not a crime and should never have been treated as one. Complete waste of time and money.
They said the case wasn’t moving forwards because of a “lack of evidence”. Not that there was no crime committed.
Yeah, as you pointed out, the chant was done in a public place. So "lack of evidence" is a prosecutorial euphemism for "we have no case."
Not familiar with the specific law in question, but for a lot of laws intent and knowledge at the time of crime matter. Eg the difference between manslaughter and murder is a difference in attitude.
I could plausibly see that in this case there is not enough evidence to determine what the mind set was, while the physical action still undoubtedly took place.
Eg in Germany showing the Nazi salute or displaying a swastika are illegal, except for artistic or educational purposes. A case could be constructed in which a defendants intent when showing either the gesture or the symbol could not be clearly deduced. This not enough evidence exists wether a crime was committed, even though the physical action that would constitute the crime undoubtedly happened.
Could be a similar thing is at play here.
Maybe, but I think the intent was quite clear here. Political statement of contempt towards the IDF. There was no sarcasm or irony. It wasn't part of a song. He just led the crowd in a chant.
Death death to the idf
DEATH DEATH TO THE IDF
Me: Prosecute? Speech? You can't, get fucked.
Glastonbury
Oh that sounds bri*ish as hell, makes sense, didn't have a chant starting loicense.
Glastonbury is our (bi?)annual Woodstock-like music festival.
Ex police officer arrested (though not prosecuted, still held for more than a month) because he quoted Trump after Charlie Kirk got involved with a projectile.
https://www.thefire.org/news/he-spent-37-days-jail-facebook-post-now-fire-has-his-back
(First link when I googled, know nothing of the site or org)
At least in the US, that is illegal to do. Now good luck prosecuting that until a lot of police reform happens because that's a whole issue as well, but that is illegal. Over there he'd be convicted and sentenced on top of being held.
Over there he’d be convicted and sentenced on top of being held.
I'm "over there" and no, the chance of being convicted of that act here is almost nil.
And yet, it happens.
Why would they prosecute him for a change? WTF is happening with the world.
It is illegal to hurt a right winger's feelings.
WTF is happening with the world
I think it's the internet. Overexposure of information and stimulus about every conceivable issue, billions of voices and opinions and stray, intrusive thoughts fed directly into our eyeballs 24/7. It's making people broadly lose track of reality or not really understand what's actually important anymore.
This has had the effect of allowing the worst voices to gain power because those voices get shared more, both out of pushback and condemnation as well as support from niche groups.
Basically the information age is destabilizing society, the last couple decades have accelerated this process as capitalism has hijacked the entire system to algorithm advertising directly into your skull, so now attention spans are monetized and as a result, are being shortened further and further by competing forces.
And it's been seen over and over in history that times of uncertainty and destabilization often come with a broad retreat from the social contract and a breed a large-scale attraction to authoritarianism and selfish motivations. Likely a survival response buried deep inside us as a way to survive famine and hard times.
Don't worry, one way or another, it will end.
Good obvious right choice for ounce.
Good to see for Bob.