This is a blatant fucking excuse to not release the full Epstein files so she can have a "fair" re-trial
this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2025
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The evidence: she trafficked those kids for Trump to rape
The judge will throw it out. Trump will then call him or her an activist democrat judge (only in all-caps and with more misspellings) and then pardon her "in the interest of justice."
This (and Epstein's associates in general) are some of the extremely few instances where I'd feel completely justified in calling for extrajudicial justice when normal justice fails us.
Vigilantism is a symptom of a failed justice system. I'd give good odds on this.
Well, we definitely have a failed justice system, so it's hard to disagree with your conclusion.
You do realize this government has programs that scour social media for comments just like this, right? They're real 21st century authoritarians, and while not quite as bad as China yet, they're trying hard to get there.
Yeaaah but some of us are commenting from the sidelines in countries with free speech
Yeah but do you have any oil perchance? Did you use olive oil with your eggs this morning? If so, THEY'RE COMING.
With the way Trump talks about Canada and the fact we do have oil, you might not be wrong :(
Y'all about to get freedom'd
You're welcome to try, if you want to realize why Russia has had such an unfun time so far trying to invade a country whose people already speak your language and are mostly visually indistinguishable from you. The US does not have a good track record of successfully enduring in an occupation against guerilla warfare in the first place. If you thought Vietnam and Afghanistan were bad, or the 9/11 terror attacks were bad, there's always a way it can get much, much worse and much more widespread. Nukes and strategic bombers and all the other wonderweapons the US has aren't the "I win" button the US thinks they are. Those can make an army and a government surrender, but they can't make a people surrender. And it's the people they'll have to worry about in the long run. Especially in Canada. Grab SKS, go inna woods. There's a loooooot of woods up here.
I suspect if something like that happened you'd see a lot of "refugees" streaming north across the border.
Picking a fight with our northern cousins is absolutely a losing move that only a loser would consider.
We would welcome you and would invite you to grab scary black assault rifle, go inna woods too. There are plenty of woods here for everyone.
Brother I love hockey, pancakes, beer, AND the woods. I'm sorry my government is full of idiots.
So what are suggesting? To shut up, get in line, and lick the boot?
Yep, you got it 100%. That's exactly what I said, glad you could read.
Ah, maybe you're saying that we should cower from the authoritarian regime. Who knows, I'm illiterate.
Anyways, the comment above was a question that you're more than welcome to answer rather than give a snarky little quip. I understand if that's a stretch for you though. Best to stay scared.
read my other comments, then maybe go outside for a bit
Cool, I hope they see this and are ready to take on a well armed, highly decorated veteran, that they trained specifically to deal with a hostile invasion force, with lots of booby traps that I can deploy at will.
You do you I guess
Don't be a bitch. Say what you want to say until they physically stop you.
I mean, follow your heart then
Cool. I hope they can read that they fucking suck then.
You can say that all you want. Fuck Trump. Fuck this regime. Fuck ICE. etc. but when you start promoting specific violent acts against specific people, things get more complicated. Probably still fine tbh, but historically the government has actually gone after social media users who say specific violent threats.
Someone should stab Mitch McConnell with a wooden steak blessed with holy water. I bet he would burn to ash.
Well, if she gets out, I'm sure some standup conservative will gun her down. Being anti-pedophile and pro-gun is their thing. Right? .... Right?
texas judge setup
Texas Senator Ted Cruz said "stop attacking pedophiles"
This filing is, to me, quite odd.
She has attorneys, and the cash to hire more, one of whom is quoted in this article (David Markus) but she is filing her present habeas petition pro se, which means when the petitioner is acting as their own attorney. To quote today's NYT article:
Ms. Maxwell’s court filing on Wednesday, known as a habeas petition, runs 52 pages and is signed only by her, without any indication that a lawyer helped her prepare it. Earlier this month, David Oscar Markus, who was then representing Ms. Maxwell, said in a letter to the judge, Paul A. Engelmayer, that she planned to file a petition without the assistance of a lawyer.
It's not unheard of, but it does kind of make me blink when someone who obviously has attorneys, and further access to both cash and more attorneys, suddenly goes pro se. Clearly she sees some benefit to this approach, because it's not poverty or lack of representation that's forcing her to represent herself.
And not only did she go pro se, she had her attorney write the letter to the supervising judge in early December that said she intended to do so.
I'm not an attorney, and I'd be very interested in hearing what anyone with actual legal experience thinks is behind this strategy, because on the face of it it's incomprehensible to me. Beyond the actual wisdom in the old saying, "Anyone who represents themselves has a fool for an attorney," on a practical level you just don't do it unless you are absolutely forced to, especially in criminal proceedings, where slight procedural missteps can lose an entire case.
Pro se habeas petitions are what prisoners with no money and lawyers write. What's this fool's reason?
A pro se litigant cannot get sanctions.
This means they can also file some batshit crazy stuff and just get away with it, all a judge can do is say no.
She will file something crazy and then hope to hit one of Trump's bribed/loyal cult judges.
Thank you! I had an idea it was going to be something like that, but did not have enough knowledge of the law to narrow it further.
As far as I know David Markus is still representing her in related criminal matters; he specifically referred to her as his client in his letter to the judge (NYT article, para 10) when referencing the DoJ request to unseal grand jury materials, making note of her pro se position solely in regard to filing the habeas petition.
She has other attorneys as well: her personal attorney Leah Saffian; Melissa Madrigal, who represented her at the DoJ interview conducted by Todd Blanche; and of course she has the cash to hire anyone else she wants.
So to me it was always a strategy decision and not one made of necessity. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain.
A lawyer can't advise you to, or knowingly allow you to, lie. She's likely planning to commit perjury and is either insulating her lawyers or preventing them from ratting her out as they are mandated to. It's also possible she's planning to throw her lawyers under the bus.
A lawyer can’t advise you to, or knowingly allow you to, lie.
At least, not lawfully.
I don't think the point of the lawsuit is to win via legal means. It's just to give Trump a "justification" to pardon her.
No rational person wants to represent her?
Either the evidence is so laughable no one wants to touch it or no one wants to be known as the person who colluded with trump to release his pedo buddy
no one wants to be known as the person who colluded with trump to release his pedo buddy
Lawyers have no shame.
She already has attorneys, multiple ones, she's filed this herself.
I understand that, I'm saying that perhaps it's such a bad idea that no lawyer wants to be attached so she's had to do it on her own
Nah. Get fucked and rot in prison for the rest of your life Ghislaine, and anyone else who associated with them (cough cough).
On one hand, the Constitution absolutely must be respected.
On the other, I never want to hear another word from this world-class scumbag, her attorneys, apologists, or sympathizers.
Surely it's easier for Mossad to just murder this lady than put up with her reminding everyone about their boy Epstein by just being alive ..
More new evidence of her many crimes? Do tell!
No, this is evidence against the prosecution.
If true, sure, but I have some doubts about there actually being any evidence that could possibly exonerate her.
Release me from this mortal coil!