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[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 340 points 1 month ago (11 children)

WE. DON'T. WANT. THIS.

Mozilla, for the love of god, stop cramming AI into the browser when the vast majority of your users just want a privacy-respecting browser that works.

I've said it before, and I've said it again: I will not donate any more money to the Mozilla foundation until they stop cramming AI into everything, and you should too.

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 87 points 1 month ago (4 children)

They might be getting money from google that tells them what to do.

[–] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 104 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nah, Google funds them so they can point at them and say they aren't a monopoly, directing what they do would ruin that.

Mozilla's perfectly capable of making dumb decisions on their own, they do that plenty

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] meejle@lemmy.world 159 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.

Come on, this isn't Reddit, at least skim the article before you start with the performative outrage.

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 178 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It should be something that people can easily turn ON.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 121 points 1 month ago

Nnnoooooo you dumb bastards

[–] karashta@piefed.social 91 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jfc. The stupidest timeline, I fucking swear.

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[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 83 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ew ew ew.

No one is asking for AI, you weirdos!

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 75 points 1 month ago (3 children)

WTF man, I just want a fucking browser.

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[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 74 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yall saw Microsoft push stupid Copilot on everyone and fail miserably and said, "hold my beer!"

Bros, take the hint! No one wants AI bullshit. Firefox was the goto switch when Google Chrome was using 37 processes and 98% memory for one website... yall are fuckin up!

[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (8 children)

IT department at my job encourages everyone to use Copilot and try to implement it more... I don't even know WHY I'd do it in the first place

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[–] gtr@programming.dev 49 points 1 month ago
[–] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 48 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Ready for this internet fad to die and go back to stone tablets.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 month ago (14 children)

First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it.

That's a good idea to put first. Of course, like do no evil, priorities change, so we'll need to keep a close eye on this.

Second: our business model must align with trust. We will grow through transparent monetization that people recognize and value.

Transparent is good, but if he things he's going to add value to monetization, he's smoking crack. There's nothing we want from a browser that's not already provided by a plugin.

Third: Firefox will grow from a browser into a broader ecosystem of trusted software. Firefox will remain our anchor. It will evolve into a modern AI browser and support a portfolio of new and trusted software additions.

Nobody wants that. We already had all we wanted from them in trusted software.

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[–] SlackerPreface57@feddit.online 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Remember the way to disable all AI in Firefox.
about:config
browser.ml.enable -> false

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[–] xartle@reddthat.com 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I don't think anyone actually read the announcement, just the headline. Here was the new CEOs actual first point.

"First: Every product we build must give people agency in how it works. Privacy, data use, and AI must be clear and understandable. Controls must be simple. AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off. People should know why a feature works the way it does and what value they get from it."

[–] Dazed_Confused@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (12 children)

AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn ~~off~~ on. That's how it should be.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

there is absolutely zero reason to put ai in firefox

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Local ML translation was pretty cool

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[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 month ago

First, there should be a survey on what users actually want, no?

Because if no one wants AI and it's "always a choice", what you really do is waste considerable resources with as the only results, more settings users have to go through before starting using their browsers.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Hey tech companies. Consumers do not want more AI, they want less of it. Maybe we just need to get the word out?

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly this. I would love to see just one tech company stand up and say we are not doing AI, our AI budget is $0 and our product will not ship with AI. If you really want to use AI with our system you can download a plug-in or something but we won't waste our time writing one.

They would get a million users overnight.

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[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They're going to use AI to identify and block ads for me, right? Or let me set a cookie preference and automatically apply that to every page I visit?

That would be rather useful things to have AI for IMHO.

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[–] XenGi@feddit.org 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can't wait for ladybird to arrive to leave all this current browser crap behind me.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Remember to donate to open source development, y'all!

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If you're going to add AI shit it should be something people can easily turn on. It should be off by default.

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[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Just use a folk of it at this point. Zen, Floorp, Waterfox, LibreWolf, Fennec, and IronFox.

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[–] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Waterfox, Ironfox, Librewolf

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[–] sep@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As long as there is a easy way to disable it. And clearly communicated what they are doing. I do not begrudge mozilla trying to remain competitive with mainstream.

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[–] Fokeu@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Thank god for librewolf, they fix most of the new Mozilla bullshit.

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[–] ChuckTheMonkey@fedia.io 21 points 1 month ago (11 children)

It's very sad as I don't think there's a proper alternative in short term. In the end, I am afraid that I'll have to keep using Firefox because it's essentially the "lesser evil",

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[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago
[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Waterfox. LibreWolf. Fennec.

Just use a fork; rawdogging Firefox is already a bit crazy.

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[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Very unfortunate development, which seems par for the course from Mozilla these days.

I'm jumping ship. Which browser would y'all recommend at this point? Preferably something I can get on android as well as linux.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (4 children)

LibreWolf is a great alternative on Linux. It’s Firefox with all the bs stripped out and out-of-the-box privacy settings turned on.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is what I have used for the last few years (after being a Firefox user for almost 2 decades), and yeah we're probably safe for a little while, but it seems the writing is on the wall. The LibreWolf team can only do so much when the core browser is constantly being enshittified. I hoped this was a flash in the pan thing and LibreWolf would save us until Mozilla regained its senses, but it seems they've gone batshit.

I too will be keeping my eyes peeled for what to use next.

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[–] clot27@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago (11 children)
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[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (18 children)

As long as it is open source, it doesn’t matter. Forks like Librewolf will disable it.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It does matter a bit.

Librewolf devs depend on firefox development. They just rip out the stupid bits. They're not prepared to maintain a hard fork. They could still decide to do it, but it would take more community involvement.

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[–] typicalDude778@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago

LibreWolf all the way

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