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[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The next amendment also calls for protecting the children with tamper-proof, system-wide monitoring software watching all devices' internet and file usage.

Such a software would both technically infeasible and stricter than the worst and fakest 'North Korea surveillance' accusations I've ever seen.

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

how would you even enforce this lmao

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Suppressing the technology is impossible. Targeting the payment processors is trivial.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Friendly reminder that Mullvad encourages payment in cash. Can't target that payment processor

[–] Blep@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean the mail probably could intercept packages to mullvads addresses

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Admittedly true, but way more work, and probably infeasible unless the UK restarted arbitrarily inspecting all mail

[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't do that there? I mean not open and inspect but inspect outside. In the US all pieces of mail are photographed for tracking people down after the fact.

Anyways as mail sorting is done automatically with computers blocking mailed payments to their address would be beyond trivial. Just have machines sort it straight to MI6 or the London Police or a special naughty bin. True I suppose people could use re-mailer services though those are kind of hard to find, kind of expensive, and most of them are for package forwarding for people buying from abroad so not the types of companies who would resist pressure on a front like this as this group of people would be more trouble than they're worth making up a fraction of their business.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, blocking to certain addresses is probably feasible (though international mail pretty much exclusively ignores the address, so would be extra work).

But remailing here is a pretty cheap service, about 1 dollar per package. I daresay it'd be much more available and cheap if mail was being blocked for such things. And I fail to see why overseas remailers would ever feel at all "under pressure", they wouldn't care about UK laws.

Obviously yes at the end of the day there's a whole arms race to be had. My point really is just that paying in cash is exceptionally harder to seriously stop, it'd take new laws and major investment. Whereas card payments to all VPN providers can be stopped overnight with just like.. a private word from a government official.

[–] IncensedCedar@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

Proton VPN and rise up VPN both offer free VPN options

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They'll block access to the VPN service's main webpage that sells the product, same as they block any other online service that does not comply with laws.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Get one VPN where you identify yourself. Then use it to bypass the block and get another VPN. Bam.

One kid with a VPN could make a lotta playground moolah by enabling others.

[–] whatdoiputhere12@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

yeah if a vpn has no actual business in the uk, and they obviously tell the government to fuck off, what next?

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Why are all the Western countries trying to build their own Great Firewalls lately?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Socialism had to isolate itself in order to survive in a world where capitalism surrounded it and sought to destroy it from all sides.

Capitalism is preparing for a world where China is the hegemony, where they have to isolate themselves in a capitalist bubble in order to survive.

It is the bourgeois state protecting itself in much the same way the socialist state protected itself.

[–] Sam@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago

Yeah exactly.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Damn, that's going to suck

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago

A number of reasons, one of them being that they lost control of the narrative and most young people all hate Pissreal and imperialism now

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Cuz we're winning and they're losing.

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago

Information control?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

In Soviet North China they ban vpns for underage kids they also paved over all the parks and made all public spaces pay to play yeonmi-park

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also this decision is made by a small cadre of largely unelected functionaries who have become so out of touch with the people because they're so privileged.

[–] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some of them literally call themselves Lords

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago

Over half of them actually. There's way more Lords than MPs

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This would require proving your age to the VPN provider, which de-anonymises VPN usage.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Regulations under subsection (1)—

(c) must make provision for the monitoring and effective enforcement of the child VPN prohibition.

I don't think that's a side effect. The law pretty explicitly requires monitoring of any kind that the Secretary of State decides.

[–] XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you will NOT jack off, so HELP me GOD!!!!!

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the House of Lords. I could ask them to spell VPN and they'd start counting their fingers.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

In a way, they're sabotaging their future technological capabilities. Teens that are prohibited from using a VPN are not going to explore the field of networking as much.

Privacy is not to be permitted. Under 16s are not to be permitted encryption. No one is to have anything to hide except for the Government who will hide everything.