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    [–] presoak@lazysoci.al 4 points 2 hours ago

    You need to put this in clear [JOKE] tags, otherwise they'll never get it.

    [–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago
    [–] Enzy@feddit.nu 2 points 3 hours ago
    [–] super_user_do@feddit.it 54 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] presoak@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 hours ago

    But once you read his words he's got a foot in the door. Then he's harder to ignore.

    So maybe it's harder to ignore fools on social media. Which would make social media a kind of fool-enhancer.

    I guess this is where blocking comes in. But that seems drastic.

    [–] arc99@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

    Every operating system contributed to the bloat. Windows has Win32, OS X has Carbon / Cocoa, Linux has X11 and various widget libs that sit on top of it. So it has been a perennial nut to crack to make cross platform widgets - wxWidgets, QT, SWT/JWT/Swing on Java, XMLShell (Firefox), Electron, GTK/GTK#, winelib etc.

    Throw mobile platforms into the mix and it's an unholy mess. Lowest common denominator is HTML and so the likes of Electron "wins" even though it's bloated and slow.

    [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

    i actually don't have a problem with HTML, i just think that instead of every app shipping their own copy of electron, the operating system should provide basic browser functionality.

    [–] wdx@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

    that sounds like Tauri!

    Linux and Mac use WebkitGTK, Windows uses Edge/Chromium, Android uses Chrome - as bundled in the respective OS, and you essentially have a frontend running on that webview communicating with a backend running locally via some special IPC protocol

    [–] hydriplex@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Then that operating system gets hit with anti-trust

    not if it's a library

    [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 42 points 11 hours ago

    Lame attempt at ragebait.

    [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 hours ago

    Yeah, not because they saw a way to develop for Win/Mac/Linux/Android/IOS all at the same time and went yeah, we'd take some of that.

    Naw, They REALLY wanted to dip their toes in that 2013 extra 1% of traffic pool.

    [–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    Eithet ignorant or troling

    [–] Twakyr@feddit.org 3 points 9 hours ago

    I thought it was comendy πŸ˜…

    [–] art@lemmy.world 35 points 14 hours ago

    Okay, how does this dude explain native Linux apps?

    [–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 40 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    Aren't Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.

    [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    As is wxWidgets and others.

    [–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

    Dear god, I had to write wxWidgets/C++ for Win32 last year for work and it was horrific. Never again, back to modern web standards for me. The irony is that it was justified as being "cross platform" but we never got around to actually making it work on Linux. Makes no sense, it should have been an internal web app. (Admittedly, this was for law enforcement software and they seem to love windows.)

    [–] FE80@lemmy.world 53 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

    What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?

    [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 21 points 13 hours ago

    And what kind of slavering mouth-breathing teoglodyte doesn't understand that Hannah Montana Linux negates all of these issues, will suck your dixk without hesitation, and lets you read news from four days from now.

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    [–] Randelung@lemmy.world 35 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

    Abstraction layers? In MY messy pile of spaghetti ass code!?

    [–] Hupf@feddit.org 6 points 13 hours ago

    You wouldn't understand it, it's more of a messy pile of lasagna ass-code situation.

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    [–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 22 points 15 hours ago

    The real reason is it's a pain in the ass to deploy software in Windows. It's not like you can easily set up a server and put some packages on and have it just automatically apt update to that. Sure there's some "Enterprise" servers you could set up (and pay license fees for) that might work somewhat like that, but it's easier to just make it a web app and deploy to an internet webserver.

    For product distribution, you need someone download an .exe, hope a virus scanner won't block it, maybe pay microsoft to sign it or whatever, hope the user has a compatible version of windows, and maybe they can get some working software. But then you have to make some mechanism to handle updates and hopefully that doesn't get blocked by some security software. So it's easier to make your software a web application.

    Also putting out windows native applications means you might not be able to enshittify it later since people could continue to use the old version forever. It's weird to assume enshittification happens accidentally, but it's actually what some companies want to do their software because $$$. They want applications they can enshitty later, they don't make applications that may work on linux and whoopsie it just somehow got enshittified because of that... somehow.

    But many times it's just best solution. If an application doesn't need access to anything on my system, I'd rather it be a web app. App does the thing I need, and when I'm done, I close the tab and we're done. Why install more software on my system if I don't need to?

    [–] olafurp@lemmy.world 138 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

    Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React

    [–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 121 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

    I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.

    [–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

    "I am a react developer"

    I thought we are supposed to be language-agnostic after 3rd project.

    [–] Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

    Two more projects to go, then!

    [–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    In the era of tech evangelists? People pick 1 technology branch and make it their entire personality

    [–] masinko@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    That's still a stupid reason. I'm a .NET & MSSQL developer primarily, I'm not gonna shove C# in every project I write if it doesn't makes sense.

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 33 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    That is the most punchable response I've seen in a while.

    [–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Punchable is a bit far, probably wanna tone it down a bit, big guy.

    Just kidding, but it's only funny and also is it this guys fault?

    I don't even know if it's true, but in any case, the guy who tasked a react (native) developer on the start menu is responsible (not the developer).

    Example: If I managed a product and hired a python developer and told them to do x, they would likely use python, right? (In this scenario, It is I the manager wjo failed everyone, not the developer).

    Also the other commenter is correct. It's like the common saying "use the right tool for the job". The saying doesn't make sense, because the right tool is always the one you know how to use..

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    Punchable is a bit far

    Didn't mean that literally 😁 I just thought it was funny to describe a written response as punchable. But the response was annoying.

    It might not be the developer's fault, but him practically defending the choice by completely dodging the performance aspect is irresponsible to me. It's like he's ashamed to discuss it. Or doesn't have the knowledge to?

    A good developer should speak up and say that they might not have the skill set required for the task. That's my opinion. Either that or learn the ropes but flag for extra time needed.

    the right tool is always the one you know how to use..

    100% disagree. There are more suitable tools for certain jobs.

    Hello I am looking for a job as a surgeon. Okay what tools do you know? Jackhammer. That's the only one you know? Yup. Mmkay then that's the right tool for surgery in your case, can you start Monday?

    🫠

    Imagine someone using Java to write a program that just runs several other commands in sequence. That should really be a script, and the developer should learn a sufficiently suitable shell scripting language.

    But yeah, ultimately I agree, it's not his "fault". Especially if he flagged this to be something a bit out of the ordinary, and his manager(?) insisted. Then it's 100% not the guy's fault, for sure ong.

    [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

    When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    [–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 2 points 3 hours ago

    "... And that is how I used React as a database language."

    ~me presenting at a conference in 2026

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    [–] lefaucet@slrpnk.net 18 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

    No way that's real. Tell me it's not real

    [–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

    Probably, but only because at this point I'm fairly certain reality itself must be a parody of something.

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    [–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

    Well, at least it's React Native, seemingly. Also from what I've heard it's only one section like rendering results from the web or some shit like that.

    [–] thecatprincx@pawb.social 26 points 18 hours ago

    Someone obviously missed their nap and is having a tantrum.

    [–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 133 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Tell me you have no idea how software development works without saying it...

    [–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

    Tbh, it's not entirely wrong, which is the reason why it works so well as rage bait.

    It's really not about Linux, but it is about supporting anything and everything out there with a single app. Use Electron and you can have the same app running on Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, iOS, your car, your game console, your smart fridge and in a website.

    Of course the result sucks, but if you can cut development effort into a fraction while also supporting systems that you would have never supported otherwise, that's not a bad deal for businesses.

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    [–] qualia@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

    Since when has competition ever spurred innovation? Pff

    [–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 52 points 22 hours ago

    He's a magician, because reading this, I aged 10 years and grew a metastatic tumor.

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