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The Pentagon’s investigation of Sen. Mark Kelly over a video that urges American troops to defy “illegal orders” has raised a slew of questions, and some criticism, from legal experts.

Some say the Pentagon is misreading military law to go after Kelly as a retired Navy fighter pilot. Others say the Arizona Democrat cannot be prosecuted as a member of Congress. A group of former military prosecutors insists he did nothing wrong.

The Pentagon announced the investigation last week after Donald Trump’s social media post accusing Kelly — and the five other Democratic lawmakers in the video — of sedition “punishable by DEATH.”

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[–] gwheel@lemmy.zip 79 points 4 months ago (8 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 51 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The logic in this is so mind numbing. It bothers me to my core that people see this shit and don’t realize why it’s dumb as fuck.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

i'm less worried about it being dumb as fuck, and more worried about why they now feel so comfortable as to openly peddle their bullshit lies via government sites

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Either they themselves are dumb as fuck, or they just don't care because they benefit, because it's hurting the people they hate, or at least the people they're told to hate.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 5 points 4 months ago

Low education standards and high consumption of propaganda.

Exactly like Hungary, Slovakia, Isreal, and a number of other backsliding Democracies

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's so fucking sad that the website for the presidency is nothing more than Twitter, in more ways than one. There's no professionalism, it garners no respect, it's just laughable. Disgraceful.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

idk, there's some solace in them finally taking the masks off atleast.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even given their horeshit premises that page is comically badly written. I don't even think they used AI, because AI could have done it better.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 1 points 4 months ago

If Trump did a deal with GoDaddy Airo just think how many slop websites how great America could be /s

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 16 points 4 months ago

INTERNET SAFETY TIP:

Use Tor browser to prevent malicious sites like this one from tracking and surveilling you. Volunteers like me run nodes as a public good. Use them.

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[–] manxu@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago

That page is so YouTube comment section that I start understanding why there is a war on archive.org. The idea that this kind of stuff is going to be visible long after it's deleted must be troubling even to those that post it.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

This might be one of the most batshit insane things I’ve seen in a while

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

Is that page for our Hour of Hate?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

Using OUR White House website to spread their filthy propaganda. I can't wait to see these treasonous PedoCons to be begging and crying when they go up against the wall.

[–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The huge free speech advocates seem to not support freedom of expression it appears.

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Not to mention the speech and debate clause protecting members of congress even more.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

If you get into an argument about this nonsense with a Trump supporter you can basically end the conversation with one simple question. "If a Commanding Officer gave the order to take out the president, should a soldier follow it?"

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Investigating him is fine; wasteful but fine.

However, he’s on the record with what he said, and it’s backed by military law.

Once they’ve taken the 1 hour to investigate and come to that conclusion, it SHOULD be time to move on.

For some reason we’re still discussing it over a week later.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 36 points 4 months ago

All the Trump administration had to say is, "Go ahead and disobey illegal orders; we're not issuing any."

Even though it would be a lie, this response just makes it extremely obvious they're issuing illegal orders.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If that video was sedition, then so is this post. They're saying the exact same thing.

[–] Jumbie@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

I ain’t clicking that. No way.

[–] CtrlAltDefeat@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Could you quote the message here? I'm not too eager to take a peek over at truthsocial

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (5 children)
[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

An aluminum vessel used to store food products for extended periods of time.

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago

That thing sounds comes out of

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

A bulbous accessory used to store mucus

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 0 points 4 months ago