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But this one really stings.
"Half baked skills and items for the existing classes have never been fixed, tooltips LITERALLY LIE TO YOU in some cases",
Text is the easiest thing to fix in a game. And that just reeks of shotty work, especially in a MMO.
Shoddy? Or shitty? Honestly probably both. Lol.
But in case you didn't know.
As soon as Krafton bought them out it wasn't just downhill from there, it was a steep drop off a cliff. The game had so much promise but got royally fucked.
nothing new about this
poe still has this problem on and off
Biggest fumble in ARPG gaming in a minute.
Maybe they will ask their fans if they have phones.
They should have just put a fork in it when it became very apparent early on it was too ambitious for the studio to handle. And that was long before it blew up in popularity. Now the game has been unprofitable for the past few expansions and their owners are coming to collect. Live service was a massive, greedy mistake as Bungie is also not learning with D2.
After ditching D2 last year well past the 10k hour mark, I've been bouncing around a bunch of different games, mostly working through the backlog but also looking for a long-term grind to scratch that same itch. Out of everything I've tried, PoE2 and Warframe feel like the only ones doing live service "right", especially the latter. Between both games, the only MTX gripe I have is PoE2's stash tabs.
Last Epoch had a ton of potential but the team were in way over their heads and forced to start cashing in, and the Krafton buyout was the nail in the coffin. It feels like they just flat out didn't have the budget to keep it going.
Yeah, we're in the same boat. I'm going through the backlog, but I have yet to truly find my comfort food even though those two games are excellent. Especially PoE2.
Regardless, agree on your points. The latter two franchises have shown that live-service can be done well. Though I still don't quite get how Warframe pulls it off... I guess it's that they never broke their model while Bungie... you know.
For Last Epoch, the campaign wasn't even finished and then suddenly. Don't write checks you can't cash, I guess.
I fuuuuuucking KNEW IT.
I totally agree with ditching a game over MTX, but doesn't PoE also want to stick its hand in your wallet? Making a game more restrictive to sell "quality of life" is just as bad as selling a character.
Everything is cosmetic last I checked aside from stash tabs, which granted should be earnable in-game, but it's nothing like an entirely MTX-only class. I do wish the game had a transmog system though at least, even Diablo 4 does, and we all know how Blizzard is.
Could be better, could be worse.
Path of exile is completely playable for free, all content, no restrictions.
The stash tabs are a soft requirement. You can play without them, but it's a less enjoyable experience.
F2P with MTX, got it.
Personally I'd call it buy to play with an unlimited demo and optional mtx. Back when I played it, the default stash tab wasn't remotely enough, but after spending 20 euros I had enough tabs for all my needs and I then played several seasons without spending anything more. It's still the best freemium model that I've ever encountered imo.
Yeah F2P with MTX, mostly cosmetic, but some that make your life easier.
Isn't that just the standard f2p mmo experience
Hat stores and "buy more space to hoard the loot we design the game to make you need" mtx shouldn't be given the free pass they get, especially by players that go nuclear over paid character DLC.
I agree, but it's also true that once you put 40€ in stash tabs bought in sales, you don't really need more. In sales 40€ should give you enough to buy a premium/merchant tab plus all the major special tabs, and from there on it's pretty much whatever.
They don't really make tons of new shinnies each league anymore, and if they do they now usually give you a dedicated tab for free. This league the only issue was foulborn currency and implant currency, but if you had a currency tab those go to the bottom side and you never fill that part in the last leagues we got. I have a premium tab for all the league currencies of tabs I don't own but have an affinity, and it doesn't get filled usually.
And take into account that LE is a paid game, people have already put their 30-40€ in LE, now they are asking more just to get the end of the story. We still don't have a complete campaign and they are asking money to propel that already paid just to see it finished.
That's how I see it, PoE is a 40€ paid game with a free review (though not marketed like that) while LE is a paid game where they are going to release paid expansions and paid characters. Even Torchlight Infinite (the most p2w of them all) doesn't do paid characters, the new ones become free in the next season.
I agree, but it's also true that once you put 40€ in stash tabs bought in sales, you don't really need more. In sales 40€ should give you enough to buy a premium/merchant tab plus all the major special tabs, and from there on it's pretty much whatever.
They don't really make tons of new shinnies each league anymore, and if they do they now usually give you a dedicated tab for free. This league the only issue was foulborn currency and implant currency, but if you had a currency tab those go to the bottom side and you never fill that part in the last leagues we got. I have a premium tab for all the league currencies of tabs I don't own but have an affinity, and it doesn't get filled usually.
Yes but that's still different from f2p with paid content
Hoping to cover costs solely from cosmetics is a pie-in-the-sky fancy and they knew that, the only way that works is if your game blows up in the way that only those rare, 0.01% of games do. Saying they expected that to work out was some fucking bullshit. I sympathize with their plight, it’s obvious that if the options are sell DLC or shut down the studio, you sell DLC, but it shouldn’t have happened like this.
They were dishonest at worst or brutally naive at best from the start. I’m willing to accept that latter simply because these were originally Reddit people who wanted to make their own mark on the genre, but it’s still inexcusable. I have zero involvement in the industry and I could tell you that was not gonna work out.
That's rough. I tend to cycle in and out of games (particularly ARPGs).
Paid DLC content acts as a deterrent to me going back to a game that I only play fairly casually. Not saying that I won't do it, but it does raise the bar on my expectations.
Paid DLC that is simply less content and more texture pack is just bullshit. Paid DLC like Grim Dawn xpacs are content I'm more than happy to pay for. So it's all relative but this for me is dookie
Just so you guys know, it's pronounced 'epic.'
No it's eeee pock because fuck all y'all prescriptivists
Just so you know, that depends on your location.
Y-puck
In other news, runescape classic is still good.
Really? I thought they had a shitload of MTX
That's Runescape 3,except they are removing it all. Osrs has membership (effectively required for the game) and you can buy bonds so other players can buy membership with in game money. That's it.