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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 67 points 2 months ago (4 children)

But this one really stings.

"Half baked skills and items for the existing classes have never been fixed, tooltips LITERALLY LIE TO YOU in some cases",

Text is the easiest thing to fix in a game. And that just reeks of shotty work, especially in a MMO.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago

Shoddy? Or shitty? Honestly probably both. Lol.

But in case you didn't know.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 months ago (8 children)

It's not an mmo.

It's an arpg

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[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

As soon as Krafton bought them out it wasn't just downhill from there, it was a steep drop off a cliff. The game had so much promise but got royally fucked.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 months ago

nothing new about this

poe still has this problem on and off

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They should have just put a fork in it when it became very apparent early on it was too ambitious for the studio to handle. And that was long before it blew up in popularity. Now the game has been unprofitable for the past few expansions and their owners are coming to collect. Live service was a massive, greedy mistake as Bungie is also not learning with D2.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After ditching D2 last year well past the 10k hour mark, I've been bouncing around a bunch of different games, mostly working through the backlog but also looking for a long-term grind to scratch that same itch. Out of everything I've tried, PoE2 and Warframe feel like the only ones doing live service "right", especially the latter. Between both games, the only MTX gripe I have is PoE2's stash tabs.

Last Epoch had a ton of potential but the team were in way over their heads and forced to start cashing in, and the Krafton buyout was the nail in the coffin. It feels like they just flat out didn't have the budget to keep it going.

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah, we're in the same boat. I'm going through the backlog, but I have yet to truly find my comfort food even though those two games are excellent. Especially PoE2.

Regardless, agree on your points. The latter two franchises have shown that live-service can be done well. Though I still don't quite get how Warframe pulls it off... I guess it's that they never broke their model while Bungie... you know.

For Last Epoch, the campaign wasn't even finished and then suddenly. Don't write checks you can't cash, I guess.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 months ago

I fuuuuuucking KNEW IT.

[–] pory@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I totally agree with ditching a game over MTX, but doesn't PoE also want to stick its hand in your wallet? Making a game more restrictive to sell "quality of life" is just as bad as selling a character.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Everything is cosmetic last I checked aside from stash tabs, which granted should be earnable in-game, but it's nothing like an entirely MTX-only class. I do wish the game had a transmog system though at least, even Diablo 4 does, and we all know how Blizzard is.

Could be better, could be worse.

[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Hoping to cover costs solely from cosmetics is a pie-in-the-sky fancy and they knew that, the only way that works is if your game blows up in the way that only those rare, 0.01% of games do. Saying they expected that to work out was some fucking bullshit. I sympathize with their plight, it’s obvious that if the options are sell DLC or shut down the studio, you sell DLC, but it shouldn’t have happened like this.

They were dishonest at worst or brutally naive at best from the start. I’m willing to accept that latter simply because these were originally Reddit people who wanted to make their own mark on the genre, but it’s still inexcusable. I have zero involvement in the industry and I could tell you that was not gonna work out.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's rough. I tend to cycle in and out of games (particularly ARPGs).

Paid DLC content acts as a deterrent to me going back to a game that I only play fairly casually. Not saying that I won't do it, but it does raise the bar on my expectations.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

Paid DLC that is simply less content and more texture pack is just bullshit. Paid DLC like Grim Dawn xpacs are content I'm more than happy to pay for. So it's all relative but this for me is dookie

[–] jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just so you guys know, it's pronounced 'epic.'

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

No it's eeee pock because fuck all y'all prescriptivists

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Just so you know, that depends on your location.

[–] grahamja@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In other news, runescape classic is still good.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Really? I thought they had a shitload of MTX

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

That's Runescape 3,except they are removing it all. Osrs has membership (effectively required for the game) and you can buy bonds so other players can buy membership with in game money. That's it.

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