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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Tervell@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
 

my favorite is the scene of paratroopers dropping in front of a school and just immediately starting to randomly shoot civilians and cars and blow up buses with RPGs?

and literally like a minute later they're now trying to hail a car to stop instead of shooting it, and rounding up civilians to put them in internment camps, so I guess they had gotten the indiscriminate slaughter out of their system by that point

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[–] Krem@hexbear.net 55 points 1 week ago

my favorite is the scene of paratroopers dropping in front of a school and just immediately starting to randomly shoot civilians and cars and blow up buses with RPGs?

every accusation is an admission etc.

of course USians making a movie about being invaded would think the invaders act like americans do when they invade somewhere

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The remake is worse

Not sure how, but it is

[–] mickey@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I watched the OG Red Dawn earlier this year in its entirety, and it's not good, but it is one of the (sic) movies of all time and the writers believed in whatever they thought they were doing. I made it about 1/3 of the way through the new one and it felt like there was nothing going on.

Hat tip to the scene in the original where the downed fighter pilot is hitting on the high school girl, and also one of the high school boys is sitting out while they're throwing a football around and his pal comes up like, "hey join us!, don't be a f-slur."

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember reading that up until very late in the production of the remake, the invading army was supposed to be Chinese. At nearly the last minute though, the studio realized “oh we’d like to be able to keep releasing films in the Chinese market” and had them switch it to North Korea. Which both speaks to how much the film must’ve gotten fucked up by such a late charge, but also how bad the original concept of the film was if they could make that drastic a change so late and still have a film.

[–] mickey@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Yeah I'd also absorbed that bit of lore but hadn't heard it was a late change, that certainly implies how little it matters to the plot what country is invading. The OG had Nicaraguans as a cat's paw for the big bad Soviets which is like, same hemisphere at least.

[–] Red_October@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

I mean that’s how I fantasize doing it.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I saw it as a commentary of "what if what we did to Vietnam happened to us" to try to make burger brained people empathize with Vietnamese civilians. Of course this is totally unintentional, and even if it weren't 100% chance most people would miss that and just see it as a power fantasy of killing non-white people

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Red dawn is so good. I love when they go to the store bc they know they have to go hide out in the woods and they buy just the dumbest shit, I think like a container of beef jerky, a case of coca cola and a football

[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they go to the store bc they know they have to go hide out in the woods and they buy just the dumbest shit, I think like a container of beef jerky, a case of coca cola and a football

Reminds me of the store scene from Patlabor 2, except at least there a senior officer comes in and chews the guys out for now knowing what to buy.

Tbf, the jerky probably isn't such a bad idea, it's a type of food specifically invented to be long-lasting (although I'm not sure how well modern store-bought jerky would reflect that, I imagine the real historical stuff might not have been exactly the tastiest). Making sure to provision soda for your insurgent force is peak America though.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

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[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

no better way to disprove communism than a hypothetical military conflict