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The average American now holds onto their smartphone for 29 months, according to a recent survey by Reviews.org, and that cycle is getting longer. The average was around 22 months in 2016.

While squeezing as much life out of your device as possible may save money in the short run, especially amid widespread fears about the strength of the consumer and job market, it might cost the economy in the long run, especially when device hoarding occurs at the level of corporations.

Research released by the Federal Reserve last month concludes that each additional year companies delay upgrading equipment results in a productivity decline of about one-third of a percent, with investment patterns accounting for approximately 55% of productivity gaps between advanced economies. The good news: businesses in the U.S. are generally quicker to reinvest in replacing aging equipment. The Federal Reserve report shows that if European productivity had matched U.S. investment patterns starting in 2000, the productivity gap between the U.S and European economic heavyweights would have been reduced by 29 percent for the U.K., 35 percent for France, and 101% for Germany.

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Why are we always expected to change our behavior to benefit the economy? I need to buy more? The economy is all made up why can't it change to meet the needs of the people?

[–] mr_ashernaut@lemmings.world 17 points 2 days ago

God forbid we sacrifice one-third of a percent of productivity to reduce our impact on nature.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The economic outlook is nobody having jobs and a bunch of racist sexist pedofile trillionares saying they own everything because of corruption. It’s pretty clear the consumer based economy is being dissolved for a new debt based feudal system where everything is owned and you’re allowed to live as a debtor slave or live in a for profit prison or die.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Oh no, the economy!

[–] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm still rockin' my Galaxy S10 and the desktop I built in 2016. Both meet my needs just fine right now.

[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd still be using my OG Google Pixel if it hadn't suffered a sudden and unexpected death. I was using it like normal one day and it just turned off.

[–] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 14 points 2 days ago

I honestly think we're close to the point where personal electronics are as powerful as they need to be and manufacturers are scrambling for more reasons for planned obsolescence. For example, the Windows 11 requirements are about secure boot, not processing power or memory requirements.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Balls to that. You can pry my old devices from my cold dead hands.

[–] MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago
[–] lemmyout@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One of the things the article says is that "most people want newer phones" (if they could afford it). Do y'all feel that way?

I think I wouldn't switch my 4 year old device even if someone gave me a new one for free. Just the hassle of changing to a new phone is not worth it when the new phone isn't that much better. I'm just so over "tech". I don't have that excitement of new gadgets anymore.

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Same. I cannot for the life of me understand why people have adopted phones as their computers - those shitty little screens and those shitty little fake keyboard and those shitty little toy CPUs. Why would anyone ever use one as their primary computer? For computing I use a real tricked-out desktop that I can upgrade and fix myself, with a 32" display and a real "ergonomic" keyboard. My phone is used for making phone calls, listening to music when I'm out of the house (I have a real audio system at home with real speakers and an amp and a real radio receiver), and reading websites and forums &etc when I'm at the gym. If I'm taking pictures I have a real DSLR for that as well as a couple of other casual-use digicams. Phones pretty much suck and I won't be buying another until the one I have dies or becomes too much of a privacy/security risk.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Same. I haven't seen what I would call a new feature (or at least one worth a shit) in a decade. What the hell do I need 5 cameras for? Plus, the obsession with making devices thinner is so annoying. I'm still mad they took away my headphone jack.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know shit's bad when US media starts using the 'China bad' classic "but at what cost?" byline toward US consumers

Im guessing there's a sister article somewhere on Forbes reporting lower than anticipated earnings for US phone manufacturers

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[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Won’t somebody please think of the economy?!?

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 11 points 2 days ago

The phone contracts are now all 24 or 36 months I stead of 18/24. Hence the average goes up

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This is utter bullshit. I've not bought a new phone in 7 years and even then the economic damage causes by my purchasing habits in those 7 years is an insignificant spec in the face of the economic damages wrought by the single Walmart in my home town each month.

[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m on a 3 year cycle with the iPhone, now. Last one I held on to for 3 years and the 15 Plus I have now is going to be in use until, at least, the iPhone 18.

I don’t really give a shit about the impact on the economy.

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[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

I have a Skylake box that still functions perfectly.

Yes, there's more power draw then I'd prefer, but why would I upgrade when I use nix and don't game?

I always have a spare phone on hand, because I literally use my phones until they no longer turn on.

Again, I don't game, and Pixel's have an active ROM community and long-term updates, why would I upgrade any earlier than that?

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Stop releasing new devices that are worse and/or much more expensive.

[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Perfectly happy with my iPhone 14 Pro Max, which has better build quality than the current offering, and my half decade old Surface Book Pro (running Linux, naturally) -- also built like a tank. When I need extra compute or storage, my NAS and home server await. For really serious stuff, I can always fire up an EC2 instance. Propping up the economy through consumerism is not my concern. This feels like a sponsored piece, akin to all of those articles after COVOD exhorting us to go back to the office full time.

[–] tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That collar round your neck? Silicon Valley. They are the overseers. The technocrats are kings, and your friends and family won't think another second about it. You lost privacy. Your lives are surveilled and sold on the market. Your splitting hairs over minutia and stupid fights over anything but regaining civilian autonomy over your life and data pleases them. More distractions are coming everyday in the distribution channels they control.

[–] kyonshi@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I mean, it came up from my phone company lately, and I didn't see a point in changing yet. My phone is fine, the battery is the only thing that could be a bit better.

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