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I want to let people know why I'm strictly against using AI in everything I do without sounding like an 'AI vegan', especially in front of those who are genuinely ready to listen and follow the same.

Any sources I try to find to cite regarding my viewpoint are either mild enough to be considered AI generated themselves or filled with extremist views of the author. I want to explain the situation in an objective manner that is simple to understand and also alarming enough for them to take action.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago

Just do what I do and say that you think it’s hot garbage that dehumanizes everything and everyone that use it.

Then go on to not give a shit what they think about it.

[–] s@piefed.world 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“It’s a machine made to bullshit. It sounds confident and it’s right enough of the time that it tricks people into not questioning when it is completely wrong and has just wholly made something up to appease the querent.”

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

I know people like this lol

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

There isn't a way to use AI in good faith.

Either you are ignorant of the tech and its negative effects, or you arent.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe part of the answer is to not be so strictly against it. AI is starting to be used in a variety of tools and not all your criticisms are valid for all of them. Being able to see where it is useful and maybe you even find it desirable helps explain that you’re not against the technology per se.

For example Zoom has an ai tool that can generate meeting summaries. It’s pretty accurate with discussions although sometimes gets confused about who said what. That ai likely used much less power, might not have been trained on copyrighted content

[–] iii@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In a way aren't you asking "how can I be an AI vegan, without sounding like an AI vegan"?

It's OK to be an AI vegan if that's what you want. :)

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Stop trying to make AI Vegan work. It's never going to stick. AFAIK this term is less than a week old and smuggly expecting everyone to have already assimilated it is bad enough, but it's a shit descriptor that is trading in right leaning hatred of 'woke' and vegans are just a scape goat to you.

Explain how AI haters or doubters cross over with Veganism at all as a comparison?

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Explain how AI haters or doubters cross over with Veganism at all as a comparison?

They're both taking a moral stance regarding their consumption despite large swathes of society considering these choices to be morally neutral or even good. I've been vegan for almost a decade and dislike AI, and while I don't think being anti-AI is quite as ostracizing as being vegan, the comparison definitely seems reasonable to me. The behaviour of rabid meat eaters and fervent AI supporters are also quite similar.

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

The way the term is being used here though is to refer to vegans as preachy and annoying; it's not a pro-vegan term. It's just not a nice term to use as it ostracizes and belittles people fighting for rights.

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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The fuck is an AI vegan? There isn't meat and AI isn't food.

[–] Beardsley@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Your bed isn't really made for a king or queen.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 13 points 2 days ago

The fuck it's not.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It seems to mean people who don't consume AI content not use AI tools.

My hypothesis is it's a term coined by pro-AI people to make AI-skeptics sound bad. Vegans are one of the most hated groups of people, so associating people who don't use AI with them is a huge win for pro-ai forces.

Side note: do-gooder derogation ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do-gooder_derogation ) is one of the saddest moves you can pull. If you find yourself lashing out at someone because they're doing something good (eg: biking instead of driving, abstaining from meat) please reevaluate. Sit with your feelings if you have to.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It’s called a euphemism. We all know that a vegan is someone who does not use animal products (e.g. meat, eggs, dairy, leather, etc). By using AI in front of the term vegan, OP intimates that they do not use AI products.

I suspect you’re smart enough to know this, but for some reason you’re being willfully obtuse.

~Then again, maybe not. 🤷‍♂️~

[–] s@piefed.world 4 points 2 days ago

Baseless slur made up by corporate-pushed mainstream media to normalize giving time and money to the AI companies that paid for their airtime

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[–] Lladra@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

You'd rather make your own painting than fill in a coloring book?

[–] Ludrol@szmer.info 9 points 2 days ago

"There are emerging studies about AI induced psychosis[1], and there is a possibility to go psychotic even if one doesn't have pre-conditions to become one. I would like to be cautious with the danger, like with cigaretes or Thalidomide. You never know how it might be dangerous."


[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2507.19218

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago

and also alarming enough for them to take action.

Is this really an intent to explain in good faith? Sounds like you're trying to manipulate their opinion and actions rather than simply explaining yourself.

If someone was to tell me that they simply don't want to use generative AI, that they prefer to do writing or drawing by hand and don't want suggestions about how to use various AI tools for it, then I just shrug and say "okay, suit yourself."

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

just say that you don't want to use it. why are you trying to figure out good reasons that somebody else came up with to not use something you have to elect to use in the first place? just say "I don't want to use genAI". you don't need to explain yourself any further than that.

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The most reasonable explanation I’ve heard/read is that generative AI is based on stealing content from human creators. Just don’t use the word “slop” and you’ll be good.

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