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White nationalist Nick Fuentes is exposing a civil war among US Republicans: ‘We look like clowns’
(www.theguardian.com)
"We look like clowns. "
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Hey you can't just post pics of the Kirk shooting like that
We're supposed to be hating on minorities and making them afraid to walk down the street, but we're fighting among ourselves instead.
-Fuentes, essentially
If you actually listen to him for awhile you can summarize it as:
We all hate minorities. We can hate blacks, gays, trans, but for some reason, when I hate Jews, that's not allowed?
He is hitting a point of contradiction within modern American conservative thought as well as that of Zionism. But contradictions are fundamental to right wing thought and should be seen as more of a "shift" when their talking heads and leaders admit to them.
It is why right wing politics most logical conclusion is Nazism. Because it completely lacks the tools of dialectic and historical materialism that leftist use to analyze the world. To understand the Imperialism of America IS Israel. They are one in the same.
The right winger will believe the lie that Israel is important to the US because it is "a safe place for Jews". When this doesn't impact them personally they don't really care (as we've seen for decades). But, as the material conditions of the working class decline they are less supportive of this. They will quickly revoked "the white card" for Jews in America. They see immigrants being rounded up, put in camps, but their life is still not improving. Their job still sucks and groceries are more expensive than ever. They ask - "What undeserving minority is still hurting me?" At least this is the narrative being fed to them by people like Nick.
The logical conclusion for them, because they lack class consciousness, is MORE rascism and xenophobia. What makes "the Jews" so special? Why is our money going to a genocide?
It's at this point they even leverage leftist talking points in support of Gaza. But never never direct it towards the American Empire and the interest of the capitalist class.
Israel is used as a door to target Jews. And it's perfect for them because all this time the other conservative party (the Democratic party) has been supporting Israel without hesitation. So, it's simple to label them as "the left" whenever convenient to do so. It's a key role that the Democratic party plays in the right wing shift of American politics. To be the contradiction that masks the contradictions of the far right.
The only true conflict within the American right is whether or not hating Jews will negatively impact the settler colonialist project that is important to maintain American imperialist interest in West Asia. And it's not really a conflict but more a hesitation of capital to make that shift. The far right ideology that supports them wants it. But the profit incentives and Imperialism will always come first.
So, really, there is no conflict. There is only a shift and the illusion of a conflict. We were always heading here. Will some talking heads and politicians miss this boat? Ben Shapiro comes to mind. Yes. Yes they will. But was this always where things were headed? Yes.
The US will always continue to maintain it's support of Israel. Because Israel and America are one in the same. Not because America is "controlled by Jews" but because Israel is just an extension of US imperialism.
The only dialectical change that is occuring is the push now by the far right to stop pretending. To stop pretending that the right wing is anything but the American Nazi party.
Does Nick really want support for Israel to stop? Probably he does. He is not a leftist. He doesn't actually understand material interest of American empire or look at things through that lense.
Will the interest of capital allow anti Jewish hatred into the ruling class in order to maintain the scapegoat for fascism? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean they will stop supporting capitalist interest in Israel. It just means that hatred of Jews will be allowed along with all other minorities.
America will literally fly the Swastika over the white house and still support Israel. A fascist ethnostate is exactly what Nazis want for white people at home. They would deport Jewish Americans to Israel if they can. That conversation is coming.
It is has been said that Antisemitism is the dumb man's class conflict. And that is exactly what is happening now. The American working class lacks any class consciousness or organization and is ripe for further exploitation built on antisemitic rhetoric.
I think the US's support of Isreal is 3-fold. First, it is a safe harbor for the US to extend its might in the Middle East. Second, its probably a conflating of Judism with racism. If the chant is "Why can't the blacks go back to Africa?", then it is also "Why can't the Jews go back to Isreal?". Finally, there's the religious nuts with their suicide-cult / end times bullshit related to Jews and Isreal.
Yep. I agree. But the first of which that you listed is the one with the strongest material interests fueling it. As a leftist I see the world based first and foremost by these material incentives that influence which ideologies are used to justify them.
The reason that the christian end times bull shitters are allowed to thrive is because their ideas align with the imperialist interest. If, they believed the exact same thing, but it was in conflict with the imperialist interests in it's material goals, it would never be as big as it is in the conservative base. It's allowed to thrive and grow because it aligns.
Which is why we'll see that ideology morph and justify Jewish hatred, while at the same time, still support Israel as an ethnostate.
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How does a Fuentes lead a white nationalist movement? Giving off big Clayton Bigsby vibes.
Until he outlives his usefulness then a Whitey McPaleface will take over.
They are not smart people. And Fuentes knows it. He haaaates his followers. He despises how stupid they are. It's an amazing interplay if you actually watch his fetid show.
edit: I can't believe I feel the need to edit this, but we are in an unthinking timeline and I realized I left this comment out in space without qualifiers. I need to make things clear, just because Fuentes hates his nazi audience and just because he is attacking the GOP, DOES NOT MEAN HE'S NOW YOUR FRIEND. He is a giant piece of shit and his hair is weird. Let them all rot together.
1: Plenty of white Hispanic people
2: Plenty of colorism and anti-black Hispanic sentiment among non-white Hispanics
3: He considers himself white
"We look like clowns"
Good observation, you do! But probably not for the reason you think.
Edit: Also, what the fuck is 'the mainstream right?'
People who pay little attention but enjoy cruelty and see lots of political memes. Just guessing.
The mainstream right is primarily center-leaning folks who believe in traditional Republican talking points and don't really examine the underlying racism. For example, they believe welfare moms are a problem. They consider spending money on the arts wasteful and regulations to be anti-business. They believe in aggressive America-first foreign policy.
Many of them just want to exist in a world where they can do what they want and most everyone is basically like them.
Overtly anti-queer conservatives are the evangelicals, the "moral majority", and are a significant but niche faction. And then obviously you have white supremacists who are even more niche. But the mainstream tolerates both because a world where they don't ever have to feel uncomfortable around people whose speech they can't understand or men kissing is fine with them. They don't hate minorities, but they just don't really care about them either. Mostly they think themselves good people and everyone should strive to be just like them.
That all being said, I think the growing rift between the left and the right is radicalizing some of the mainstream, due to vocal extremists driving the conversation and politicians trying to stay relevant in online discussions. To the point where it wouldn't surprise me if mainstream right isn't the minority.
And I say all this knowing the question is probably rhetorical.
the mainstream right: Racist bigots but they like Israel and white Jews.
It used to exist. They were the people who were concerned with keeping up an appearance of respectability and avoiding extreme rhetoric in public. All of that went out of the window with Trump, of course.
People who bought the line of bullshit about Republicans being financially responsible at some point in the 80s, decided that was enough engagement for one lifetime, and proceeded to turn their brains off and have exercised precisely 0 critical thinking about anything even remotely political ever since.
Fiscal conservatives who don't like abortion, but aren't on the fascist train.
The Mitt Romneys of the world.
Not the Nick's.
Any real fiscal conservatives gave up on republicans a long time ago…
Would the real fiscal conservatives please stand up, please stand up, please stand up
Maybe you look like clowns because you are clowns...
It's a Civil War between the Sad Clowns and the Happy Clowns.
I think we should turn the lions on the whole lot of them.
Let’s not trash clowns by comparing them to white nationalists. Clowns are fun and many don’t do genocides at all.
Edit: I was expecting someone to question that last part so I could mention Ronald McDonald and compare that to a genocide but no one took the bait.
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Gee...it's almost as though a doctrine that is built on divisiveness and hate will inevitably devolve into internecine squabbles because that's all the people involved with it know how to do.
Who'd a thunk it?
WYDM "look like"?
Nothings changed.
No.
Not “like.”
Leopards love the taste of face.
The shitstain neo-Nazi lives in a Blue State! WTF! He should shove off to fucking Indiana or Mississippi,
Wouldn't surprise me in the least of he were an Israeli operative, tbh.
This comment thread delivers!
Look in a mirror buddy
You are.
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