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[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have not been paying much attention to this. What are some examples of AOC and Mamdani defending Jeffries?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most of the arguments they're making seem ridiculous to me. Like, they're saying they should just focus on New York. I guess we should just let the country as a whole burn as long as New York is fine?

IMO from reading this and a few other articles, it seems like they don't want to endorse him because they think he'll lose, which would be a failed election for the DSA and a "distraction" for Jeffries.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Because Jeffries is the Democrat house leader and they don't want to challenge leadership.

[–] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, and Schumer is the Senate leader. Being the leader doesn't (or at least shouldn't) mean your position is guaranteed. IMO the constant capitulation to the status quo is part of why we are in the situation we're in now, and it's also part of why I'm concerned that the recent wave of progressive wins will matter little in the end.

As a side note, I can't stand the worthless waffling and misdirecting politicians do rather than just say what they mean.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Indeed, especially since the Democrats caved on the shutdown without achieving anything. People desperately want to change DNC leadership but the 'progressives' are now kicking the ladder after they climbed into power.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AOC and Mamdani are liberals!!1!

Workers rise up from your chains and opiates! Seize the oppressor classes means and ways! All we have to do is not run anyone and not vote!

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

🤦

They said seize—by force not ballot. Neither the USSR, RoC, PRC, DPRK, SRV nor LPDR were voted into existence.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

No one thinks that we can vote our way into fully-automated luxury gay space communism except Republicans. What entryists are trying to do is mitigate the harm that fascists can do until a movement with an actually decent philosophy can gain the capacity for enough violence to overthrow the liberal status quo. It isn't like voting takes much time or effort. You can vote when you're already physically exhausted from running around in a plate carrier shooting targets.