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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 79 points 4 months ago (1 children)

glasses-off Why is no one in the west having children, I'm just asking the hard questions!

glasses-on REPRODUCE SOLDIERS FOR IMPERIALISM

[–] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

glasses-off we need to find ways to improve the birth rate

glasses-on women shouldnt have bodily autonomy

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago

glasses-off If we don't have more babies our culture is going to be snuffed out!

glasses-on «A different set of fourteen words I won't be repeating in a public setting.»

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago

Well, capitalist society, not technological. Capitalism hates investing in children but loves exploiting them (see Jeffrey Epstein, many of whose victims came from poorer families in Florida). But most decent people want to invest in their children, the result being those who can afford it delaying our foregoing birthing altogether, leaving only a few classes of people birthing regularly (the rich, the too poor/uneducated to reduce/avoid birthing, those who resign themselves to accept/expect worse lives for their children, those who don't care, etc.).

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I lose 65% of my income to taxes

Source? Unless they live in Sweden.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 73 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You missed a very key addition. And rent

[–] Cat_Daddy@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I did miss that, thank you.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 29 points 4 months ago

TBF the wording was suspicious

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 months ago

Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago

Yeah this sound like the common reactionary discourse of the govern is the real culprit!!

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Three kids on one salary was a unique phenomenon of peak imperial extraction post WWII, and Americans have grown up expecting that to continue forever. It is simply not viable for the average person under capitalism if you want your kids to have a decent quality of life.

[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ofc i'm child free what kind of monster would lock a child. Free the children or something, i have no money

[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's more about the shift from mass production where labour dominates to a capital intensive mode of production. In the former you have many products with average rates of return, in the latter you have a massive upfront cost expecting big returns. People child rearing matches this, in the first they have a ton of kids in the second they pool all the 'investment' into one kid

[–] casskaydee@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

Are you trying to tell me that the mode of production in material life determines the general character of the social, political, and spiritual processes of life? 🤨

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, no that can't be it...

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago

It's probably because of woke.