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[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 74 points 4 months ago (8 children)

wtf is going on in nigeria :D

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reliable recent statistics do not exist; however, Nigeria is divided roughly in half between 50–55% Muslims, who live mostly in the northern regions, and 35–45% Christians, who live mostly in the southern regions

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago

I'd like to see more subsaharan Africa on the list. It's a noted shift across the region, while you can see Muslim Turkey moderating.

Fucking pedo cults, man.

[–] alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org 55 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My guess is the billions that the US has spent to export evangelical bigotry in Africa.

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 29 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Not to disagree, but a lot of other places spent billions on exporting bigotry to Africa. Unfair to give the US all the credit.

[–] alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 months ago

You are right that the US doesn't have a monopoly on this, but they are almost certainly the front runner. There are plenty of European conservatives that donate to these "causes" and we can't forget the Catholic church that has recently compared "gender ideology" to nuclear war. Russia has also been pushing conservative and anti LGBT views, though I'm not sure how much they are involved in Africa. I'm sure there are plenty of others that I'm leaving out.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

In recent history it's mostly the US. It's a big country, and a rich country. Canadian evangelicals do their part, but will always play second fiddle just on population grounds, while Europe is just less religious. (The funny thing is that as a result of their success overseas, evangelical churches around here are getting pretty brown and diverse, which was not the plan)

Obviously this whole chart is outside of the colonial era.

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[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Disclaimer: I'm not an expert, but more familiar than most westerners.

Nigeria has a particularly rough history of religious extremism and totalitarianism. Even a lot of the indigenous beliefs were particularly intolerant (although this varied a lot, as Nigeria is an extremely diverse nation). These beliefs are rare nowadays, but still influence the culture and superstition. Adding to this, you have the influence of two abrahamic religions - in the north is a significant Islamic population, and in the south, Christianity largely imported (and enforced) by the British. I can't speak for the Islamic beleifs, but as was the case in many other places, the Christian beliefs imported and enforced were generally more conservative and extreme, and less allowed to change.

As well as this, the brutality of both regional warlords, colonization, then multiple different military dictatorships that followed, and now an ineffective government where terrorism and organized crime are common, lead many people to become more religious. Even now with a (relatively) stable and calm government, churchs and mosks are still one of the only sources for social assistance and security in communities. At the same time, the central positon of these churches leads to them being very corrupt and greedy, often being run more like a cult than a church as we tend to think of one. At the same time, in the modern world, this greed mean they also take in a lot of money from influential "Christian" organizations, for example, a lot of very rich, very political Anerican mega-churches, and will happily bend their teachings to appease wealthy donors.

All of this has led to Nigeria being effectively a perfect storm for homophobia and religious discrimination despite being (relatively) free.

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[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Given the statistics, even gays are homophobes there

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

well, they are probably scared shitless if presented with the questionnaire and they prefer not to draw unwanted attention to themselves.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Not a lot of gay orgies at least

It's likely religion doing its thing again

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Heritage foundation.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All the Islamic countries are left off the list for some strange reason

[–] alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 4 months ago

These countries have not had the most reliable reporting on topics like these, so data quality/availability is a likely reason for their absence.

Religious fundamentalism is strongly correlated with anti LGBT sentiment (at least with Abrahamic religions), so it is fair to assume that these countries are probably not very good. It is also worth noting that most of them are like they are due to meddling (or outright coups) by western nations. Iran was fairly progressive for its day before the CIA overthrew their democratically elected government.

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[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Even in progressive countries like norway thats one in ten people think that homosexuality is never or rarely ok. Insane. Thats so many people. Its a minority, sure, but its still common.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately every country has their low-water-mark percentage of irredeemable bigots. Thankfully most of them tend to live out in the middle of nowhere, away from civilised people.

[–] sep@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Problem is that those people have the internet now...

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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Except for Nigeria :(

Considering that the majority of countries are missing from this, i wonder how many more there are where it got worse.

[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I think I've made this comment before but I'm always amused at the phrasing of homosexuality being rarely justified.

So gay sex is WRONG and you'll go to HELL for your DEBAUCHE...wait 😳 he's cute! 😍 ok god will let you off this time ☺️.

[–] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (4 children)

it's common sense that homosexuality is acceptable when it's between two hot women /s

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Japan with the massive turnaround. Netherlands chill AF as usual.

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[–] Maxxie@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Does anyone know why Argentina was/is so progressive compared to its neighbors like Brazil and Chile?

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

My guess: Larger % of people living in city centers vs rural areas. A quick glance at population data over time seems to back that up, but you know what they say about correlation.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's a really good question, I'm from Argentina and I don't have a solid answer. Like someone else said the colonization and history is likely to be part of the reason, but I would like to remark that Argentina has a lot more influence from Italy, Spain, Germany and France, and also Jewish ( iirc Buenos Aires used to be the city with the largest jewish population after New York in the 90's). It's a very different cultural melting pot compared to any other country in South America.

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[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Maybe has something to do with the type of colonisation in each country. Argentina had its first university in 1613, while Brazil had its first in 1808. Brazil as a colonial project kept its extractivist nature for a lot longer.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Didn't know the world excludes all of Africa except Nigeria where homophobia is still very much a thing. Hell my ex was Zulu and my current girlfriend is Kenyan. Homophobia is alive and well in everywhere that was conveniently left our? Lol

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[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 12 points 4 months ago

thats great :3

now show the islamic countries😁

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Icelands decline is because racist Garry has died.

[–] InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Racist Gerry, who ate 80000 racists, must be considered an outlier and excluded from racism studies.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago

What a weird and confusing way to phrase that.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Did not expect Japan that high up, I guess the gay mangas had an effect.

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[–] enteroninternet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good they did not include Bangladesh. It would be all Red. Peoples view did not change.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 10 points 4 months ago

They included Nigeria instead, where it rose from 94% to 96%

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[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I didn't expect China to score well but sheesh

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

AFAIK the government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes. Their politicians don't use it as a weapon, but I could be wrong.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

government is the issue there, not cultural attitudes

Ehh..... Not really. Homophobia is just different in East Asian cultures. A lot of Asian people don't really care if someone they don't know is gay, but are incredibly harsh towards their own family members if they come out. Pretty much all East Asia is still extremely culturally conservative and still holds onto Confucianist social values like abiding to strict social expectations.

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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Gotta love the Dutch. <3

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Suspicious absence of all MENA countries.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

My takeaway is that as soon as acceptance goes past 50% it really speeds up by double digits each generation.

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