This is kinda off-topic to this community. I will lock the conversation, feel free to crosspost (if not done already) to the proper space (I know, the audience is shared between both, but still...)
this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2025
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God fucking damnit. It has been what, less than 2 weeks that this shit was dismissed?
Yeah, im in disbelief. It was just weeks ago when they reported a website was spamming the parliament with emails. Now fucking Denmark is trying again, WTF Denmark!!!
The ever present danger of Chat Control feels like listening to US politics, you get super exhausted.
Great tool. Thanks for sharing. A simple generator where you can a) select the issues you oppose, b) generate a letter with the option to revise it and c) after selecting your country of residence get the full list of representatives, which you can select/deselect.
The tool then lets you either send the mail directly from the tool or copy the mail and e-mail addresses if you wish to send it from your own e-mail.
This is a great tool which lowers the treshold significantly for supporting the issue. (Don't have to research the legal texts, don't have to write a letter, don't have to find the representatives mails).
My gratitude goes to the creators.
Not to be a downer but I’ve talked with a deputy of the European Parliament that opposed chat control and they were getting so many emails that they just had to create a filter to immediately get rid of these emails as otherwise their email inbox would just get full and they literally couldn’t work (as they wouldn’t be able to receive other emails).
And this is from someone that is on our side. I assume that people that are actually for this bill will be getting blasted even more and will care much less, so I’m not sure how much are emails effective.
Only improvement would have been to translate the texts to the local languages (and maybe make the text shorter). Maybe also add each recipient as BCC instead of them all being able to see each other
But all in all it's a great help!
You can select from French, English, German in the menu at the top right. This will result in the email text being in the chosen language.
That „all appropriate risk mitigation measures” is doing a lot of work here. Is it specified anywhere what’s appropriate?
If my understanding of the legislative EU process is somewhat correct, this effectively leaves it up to the countries to decide (as EU laws just mean that countries have to pass a law enacting it).
It's not rare to phrase laws this way in germany at least. It's not necessarily bad, as it allows court interpretation to change alongside societal values. In this case it would likely lead to only some countries actually passing mass surveillance laws (it's pretty unambiguously unconstitutional in a bunch, which makes it clear that mass surveillance is not "reasonable". Not that that always stops legislators, but it would at least die before the highest court eventually).
So we still need to fight it, because it's the first line of defense. Really what we need to push for would likely be explicitly disallowing blanket scanning of communication on the EU level, or proposals like this will happen again and again.
Yeah that seems like something that can't be put into a law. Well normally.
Laws are often purposefully vague to account for loopholes and changing circumstances/public attitudes though. It's the task of courts to define the exact boundaries – and since jury trials aren't a thing, the interpretations of any higher court will basically ammend the law for lower courts.
If you have a system based on precedent I guess, but I don't think the EU has that.
So, where are the people who were telling me how it's a move in the right direction?
I think I may have written that, but that was when all that was being talked about was allowing services to scan voluntarily. There was no mention of "all appropriate risk mitigation measures" when I wrote that.