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[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 123 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 61 points 2 months ago

*Platuminium

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 90 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Technically the guy who discovered it named it Alumium.

[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 74 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Alumium first, but then called it aluminum

It kinda reminds me of how the Brits invented the word “soccer” and now get their knickers in a twist if you say it in front of them.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The one that gets me is they bitch about calling the season Fall. They claim that Americans are so basic and stupid that we can only think to name the season after the leaves falling. They think that the name Autumn (which we also use), borrowed from French, is a far better name for the season.

First of all, we get it. You have your nose firmly up the collective asses of the French, Britain. It's a very pretty language, but maybe you could stop butchering their language for 5 minutes if you're going to be criticizing others for their English.

Second, you are the ones who came up with the name "Fall", Brits. Fall is indeed short for "The Fall of the Leaf". That term predates the US entirely, by almost two centuries, at least. And while you may think to judge us for continuing to use such an obvious name, I have bad news. Because you still use its complement, Spring, short for "The Spring of the Leaf". Say what you will about American English, but at least, in this, we're consistent.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

A friend of mine from my TV days was working in South Africa when they hosted the association football World Cup and wound up talking to a woman who worked for the Football Association (the sport’s governing body in England and the reason the sport is called association football). She was angrily insisting to him that Americans invented the name “soccer” and that it never had that name in England. She might have been inebriated, but that was a lot to be confidently incorrect about her own employer.

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 12 points 2 months ago

Aluminum by Davies, who first isolated it and therefore gets to name it. Then 'alumunium' by Wollaston, who didn't and therefore doesn't.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And the Americans started off by calling it Aluminium while the Brits called it Aluminum.

Mr.Webster of dictionary fame decided to only use Aluminum in his publication so that took over.

The Brits changed to using Aluminium after a German called it as such.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Same Brits tricked us into calling it soccer then changed their minds.

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 months ago

Mr.Webster of dictionary fame decided to only use Aluminum in his publication so that took over.

The bigger player here is probably Charles Martin Hall, who invented* a cheap method of refining it. Turns out yeah, if it's marketed and sold as aluminum in the US that's what people will know it as.

Although I guess it is possible Webster's dictionary influenced Hall's naming choice.

I wouldn't mind if we went back to calling it alumium, though.

* as a sidenote, also invented in France in the same year (coincidence) by Paul Héroult, thus called the Hall-Héroult process

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago (11 children)

It was pronounced aluminum first. The Brits changed it purposely to sound fancy.

[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IIRC the -ium ending denotes a place of origin. I.e Magnesium was first find in Magnesia. Now, the Brits thought the -ium ending sounded posher, so they called it aluminium ... but Alumnia isn't a place, so they're wrong.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Mendelevium? Ruthorfordium? Uranium? Plutonium?

[–] m532@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

We performed an autopsy on mendelev and found a new element in there

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[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So true! The next three elements that come right after it are Siliconium, Phosphorusium, and Sulfurium! So why wouldn't it be Aluminium?! LOL

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alum-

A lu min-

Alumi-

Refined Bauxite.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

You know the funny thing about that is some Minecraft mods use Bauxite as the name for the ore and ingots to sidestep the debate on how to spell/pronounce the metal lol

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It was a British guy who first fucked it up. Cope, Brits.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Same as with soccer

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

You know what really grinds my gears as a non-native speaker? Salmon. Why in the motherfuckium does that word have a silent L?? Get a spelling reform you assholes.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Now try: "Colonel"

As a native speaker, I think it's orders of magnitude worse.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Y'all are out here gonna ignore "Lieutenant" as 'LeFtenant' ?

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

TBF, Americans say Loo-ten-unt. I don't know where the British got the F, but you can't use the meme from the post for it!

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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It seems to have the same reason: English scholars thinking that it would be smart to adopt an orthography that doesn't match the pronounciation, to be more consistent with latin. i.e. the opposite of what modern-day spelling reforms usually try to do.

https://nowiknow.com/the-silent-and-not-so-silent-l/

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Assert your dominance, pronounce the L.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes, I intentionally pronounce the 'b' in "subtle", just to make it clear I'm not.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where's my "Wed-nes-day" crew? I can't be the only one who likes to phonetically pronounce that day.

See also: Feb-ru-ar-y

And for bonus points: my brother insists that "grand prix" be pronounced as grand pricks. I can't deny his logic.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You're right, we should fix that. Helum, Lithum, Beryllum, Sodum, Magnesum.

We should also fix Platinium and Lanthanium.

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[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Needs text alternative.


Molybdenium, platinium, lanthanium?

[–] mikenurre@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 20 points 2 months ago (5 children)

You mean the word that was literally invented by the English to describe asSOCiation football?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Picking 3 letters in the middle of the word is strange to me. I think we should call it "asser"

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[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's not even an issue.

Try asking them why renaming Natrium to Sodium.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 months ago

Or Kalium to Potassium.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't care which you use for alu

But if you're one of those who call it alloy, then I hope you step on a Lego.

Alloy is a mixture of different materials, not short for aluminium

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

who the fuck calls aluminum alloy

I have never heard of this before

I think you'd get laughed out of the room if you said that around us

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[–] 18107@aussie.zone 16 points 2 months ago

Aluminuminium. Make everyone angry.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 months ago

Is it time to rename gold to Aurium instead?

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We say aluminum in Canada too. I heard it was because aluminum was the original name but was changed to match the other elements shortly after. I guess NA never got the message though

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[–] AckPhttt@beehaw.org 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

First rename "Platinum". Then we'll talk.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Copper ium? Gold ium? Lead ium? Mercury ium?

If we're trying to fix inconsistencies in English, the periodic table is barely worth mentioning. Why are read (reed) and read (red) spelled the same? Why don't cow and tow rhyme?

We should probably just abandon English for something better planned like Esperanto.

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[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

And Mathematics is singular, not plural, so shortening it would be "Math" not "Maths."

But it's better to appreciate differences in the pronunciations and spellings of words

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