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It sounds like a bunch of Democrats want to cave in exchange for no concessions whatsoever. Edit: Bloomberg has more details

Current likely Democratic votes for this:

  • Shaheen - NH
  • Hassan - NH
  • King - ME
  • Fetterman - PA
  • Peters - MI
  • Durbin - IL
  • Warner - VA
  • Kaine - VA
  • Ossoff- GA
  • Warnock - GA

If you want to change things, you need to call their DC office NOW, and leave an email if you can't.

Edit 2: enough Democrats joined the Republicans to reopen the government with no real concessions.

The list:

  • Durbin
  • Hassan
  • King
  • Cortez Masto
  • Kaine
  • Shaheen
  • Rosen
  • Fetterman
  • Schumer
  • Gillibrand

There was a caucus meeting right before this, so the bulk of the Senate Democrats were likely OK with giving in, even if not willing to vote for it in public

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[–] neuromorph@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago

For those paying attention. It ended when the FAA started to ground private planes due to staffing shortages.

Those mega donors are the ones who pressured the vote. Not for the good of society. But because they started to get inconvenienced.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 117 points 3 days ago (22 children)

I hate the Democrats so so much. They never fight. Every time it looks like they might fight, it turns out that they’re not fighting. Their relentless cowardice is why we have trump and the fascists dismantling everything and hurting people.

[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 44 points 3 days ago (5 children)

"Vote for the lesser evil"

But why vote for the lesser evil if the lesser evil will vote with the greater evil anyway?

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Vote in the primaries. Get involved in local politics and find out who actually wants to help people, has good ideas, and has a proven track record in their community.

Elect the good leaders in your kid's PTO to the school board. Get to know your local scout council (both boy scouts and girl scouts), elect them to your city council. Follow your school board, city and county council, see what they are doing, who is actually helping the community with good ideas, and then send them to the state house, demand they continue to fight for the people. The good ones in your state house should go to the Capitol for no more than 3 terms, then they can come back to the state house to be the local senior leaders.

The problem is, no one does that first part where they pay attention to the local stuff, demanding local change and building local leaders and helping to ensure our candidates aren't evil.

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[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 154 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Fetterman is a disgrace I flipping hate this dude

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[–] rustyfemboy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely fucking pathetic

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every time I said they would buckle, I was downvoted. The Democratic party as an institute is not on our side, they use rhetoric to pacify us and prevent a full on revolution that's well overdue.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even if your Democratic senator didn't vote for this, call them up and call them out for allowing the spinless democrats to once again get fucked by Republicans for nothing.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

But they are not the same trust me bro. It is not all performative politics with no real impact. Democrats will save us trust me bro. One more lawsuit bro. One more vote and we defeat facism I promise.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 135 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You mean these Dems are in cahoots with the GOP. There's no fucking reason why to back down now when the pressure is on unless their handlers are telling them to.

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Once again pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory. All they had to do was literally nothing, but they couldn't even be trusted to do that.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Schumer is the hand of satan himself.

He organized this whole thing, he got the votes, he set the agenda and then guess what he did at the last minute. Just fucking guess.

He voted against the continuing resolution and washed his hands of it so the accountability doesn't land on him. He wanted his fat stack to spend on his gold-plated spectacles or coffin or whatever the fuck these ancient liches are planning on doing with all this wealth.

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[–] chipacabras@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I don’t understand what the calculation was here. People were hurting, but a whole lot more people are going to hurt without health insurance come next year. They got:

  • a vote on healthcare extension in December: almost certain to fail and even if succeeding, open enrollment ends 12/15. So you’d potentially be making people gamble thousands of dollars per month that this unlikely vote succeeds and effects them immediately
  • written into the law that federal employees get back pay - which is already federal law
  • reverses lay offs that occurred during the shut down - which were illegal
  • it only funds the government through January. So we’re going to be right back in this situation. And then what - we tell these poor SNAP recipients, “oh sorry, we’re going to need you to go though this whole thing again because we wanted to make sure people could fly home for thanksgiving.”

Hard to imagine a moderate winning a national primary after this. And what the hell is the republican answer for why it was so important that people not get slightly more affordable healthcare that it was worth starving people.

I hope that at the least, the re-establishment of SNAP will be quick.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This was just a blatant act against the American people by people who's motivation is money and power and the self-delusion thinking they're doing more good than harm by preserving the status-quo of letting Republicans shit all over our nation.

SNAPs benefits max out around 300 bucks a month for an average family.

The healthcare premiums that these same families are likely relying on will go up between that much and a thousand goddamn dollars a month, or more. I'm already being told by my company that premiums will go up $1000 more by January. What are they supposed to do if they need insulin or other drugs? This is evil, this is an act of hatred against every family and taxpayer. Countless people are going to die because of Schumer and his cronies.

[–] Mog_fanatic@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

And what the hell is the republican answer for why it was so important that people not get slightly more affordable healthcare that it was worth starving people.

Immigrants. It was always immigrants. They repeatedly blamed it on immigrants "stealing" tax payer money thru ACA even tho that's not really possible except for extreme circumstances that typically account for less than 1% of the funding for the program.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago

A new list of Dems to vote out with new lefties.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why the fuck did they start offering concessions and bargaining after they swept the state elections last week?

More evidence that moderates are not allies and are just as fearful of a leftward popular swing as the Republicans are.

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 38 points 2 days ago

As I said before, both parties wanted to cut the programs and fire federal workers because their donors wanted it. They pretend to fight over this wile actually working hand in hand to take money from the poor and funnel it to the 1%. Now that the shutdown was starting to really bite it's time to announce some "compromise". People are still fired, programs are still cut and politicians will keep pretending to disagree over this.

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 92 points 3 days ago (7 children)

These spineless Democrats do not need to cave. The GOP can end the shutdown anytime they want.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Thanks for giving the GOP what they wanted, "lesser evil" members of Congress.

And I had hope they would keep the pressure on the fascists, silly me.

I knew they were controlled opposition but this is going above and beyond the call of duty.

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[–] acme401@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] acme401@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't take this anymore. I'm fucking done. Fuck these traders. Fuck my fucking dumbass fucking neighbors. Fuck my fucking asshole family. Fuck all these people. Fuck New Hampshire with the biggest fucking dildo ever Fuck you New Hampshire Fuck you New Hampshire Fuck you New Hampshire

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago

The Democrats could fuck up a wet dream.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 days ago
[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago

Fuck Chuck.

[–] ptc075@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Really disappointed to see both my senators (GA) on here. Thank you for putting the link in your post, I'll write them both now.

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[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Fuck our government! Fuck it all to hell. So this cave means that this extended shutdown and all of the suffering people went through, was for absolutely no reason. Our government has failed us yet again. It all needs to be burnt down.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

All this time, just to cave to the word of the Republicans is nasty work and on purpose. There is always a group of Dems who are Republicans best allies.

[–] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

Hey yall. Does anyone know where these people live?

Because i would like to greet them.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] turdburglar@piefed.social 21 points 2 days ago (4 children)

this is how a nation dies.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I can't wait to see the form letter full of platitudes I receive in response from both of my senators about thsi

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Those MAGA voters don't care cuz they have ACA not obamacare so they'll be fine...

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My first thought was also, the democrats are pussies and caved again.

My second thought was getting that Epstein vote, coincidentally after some recent Epstein news...

A boy can dream. We'll see if they do some more funny business to block the release.

Open the gov and swear in Adelita Grijalva.

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[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“Deal”

Give the GOP everything it wants. Get nothing in return.

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The United States is the laughing stock of the world.

[–] GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

BOTH of my senators caved. Ridiculous and embarrassing.

Cortez-Masto and Rosen, for my fellow Nevadans.

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