My state fully funded everyone's cards the instant they were allowed to a couple days ago, which almost no other states were fast enough to do before the SC stepped in. There is no practical way to "claw back" these payments and even if there was, no local or state level politician would survive the next cycle if they did try to pull all that money off people's cards and they know that.
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There are already mechanisms built into the SNAP distribution system for repayment by the recipient. These include reversing the EBT payment to the extent of available funds, withholding the disputed funds from future disbursements, penalizing the recipient by withholding SNAP payments entirely for a certain number of months, and/or, if there are to be no further SNAP payments, simply presenting the recipient with a bill for whatever the state wants back because they think some amount was overpaid, fraudulently obtained, used outside permitted guidelines (traded for other valuables), whatever.
Unfortunately, even if they can't immediately claw the payment itself back, they can and will try. Whenever the govt releases even the tiniest portion of funds via benefit payments to regular citizens, they always build in a number of ways to get it back. Always.
I'm sure that's all correct, but in this case my State funded things as they were supposed to, when they were allowed to. The fact that window was narrow really has no impact. I get that there are was to get people's money back if there is a reason to do so, I just don't think that "Trump demands it" is on that list of reasons.
These goddamn Democrat governors standing in the way of dear leader's hostage negotiations.
What are the odds the States reply "go fuck yourself"?
I guess they could have the plethora of fascist thugs go door to door and take did out of people's refrigerators or, you know, stomachs.
/s
But I wouldn't put it past them.
While I can sort of understand the argument that when the government is shut down it makes food distribution more difficult.
But I can’t understand a government actively taking action to prevent food distribution by entities that are working around the shutdown.
- Isn’t this what supposed to be conservatives want: local government and communities more in control while less bureaucratic involvement at the federal level.
- people need food. Is the Republican Party actively trying to start a revolt? Forcing people to organize against the State for food safety has precedents.
Is the Republican Party actively trying to start a revolt?
Yes, so they can declare martial law and work around the whole "elections" thing
Its so clear, I'm glad I'm not the only one saying this... its fucking disgusting.
Trump said that he would end elections. He hasn’t been subtle about it.
They can just do that anyway.
I think it's more fundamental - they hate the poor and want them to starve. Any higher strategic value is secondary to the suffering. They just want hunger and death.
They are Nazis, and Nazis think that only a select few people deserve to live. Most people they see as a burden on the human race, holding it back from its full potential. They also see caring for others as a weakness that holds humanity back (conveniently enough for them). This usually goes along with some shitty self-justifying bastardization of evolutionary theory and eugenics.
You know what's really holding back human potential? Needlessly starving people. There are probably thousands or millions of people who could be achieving great things if they weren't struggling to make ends meet. If we had universal basic income and people didn't have to worry so much about finding any job that will keep them from starving, people would be in a better position to go after jobs they really want and achieve their goals.
"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."
Is the Republican Party actively trying to start a revolt?
Yes. Any excuse to enact martial law and begin actively hunting their opposition like animals. They want to label those who fight back against their oppression as violent, lawless, fanatics.
For 1), they use "small government" as a campaign slogan, but they are in it solely for power. Same with "state's rights", unless they can't benefit from states having those rights.
- They do not care. Simple. If anything it sparks activism that they'll try and use as justification for their goal of more of #1.
Conservatives think everyone using services is a welfare queen by definition. So their solution is to kick people off, so that they're motivated to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, because then they'll be rich just like them, then everyone will be richer because they don't have to pay taxes, etc. To conservatives any government action is by definition bad and evil.
To conservatives any government action is by definition bad and evil.
Well, they looooove government when it comes to cops protecting only the parasitic class and beating on/jailing/killing the unworthy and military adventures abroad to do the same...
Even then they want private police.
So their solution is to kick people off, so that they’re motivated to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, because then they’ll be rich just like them, then everyone will be richer
The first bit is right, but the goal is not to make everyone richer. It's to make themselves richer off the labor of everyone else, who can live a short miserable life of impoverished servitude and die young. They don't want to pay for the sick and elderly because they see those people as worthless since they can't contribute to making the billionaires more profit. And at the bottom of it is the idea that life is a competition with winners (the rich) who deserve to win and losers (everyone else) who deserve to lose, and the purpose of life is money and power.
They think the poor are poor because they didn't work hard enough. They think the sick are sick because they didn't work hard enough to get medical care. They think elderly that can't take care of themselves didn't work hard enough for their retirement. See everyone can be rich if they just worked. It worked for them (cough) so obviously everyone else didn't work hard enough.
Supposedly*
And, yes. Yes, they do want that.
I think they want to make it harder on folks when it is already hard enough. I hope leopards show up on their doorstep one day.
Isn’t this what supposed to be conservatives want: local government and communities more in control while less bureaucratic involvement at the federal level.
Nah, not really. The conservatives give a lot of lip service to such things, but that's not really what is motivating most of them.
What kind of psychotic leader works this hard to starve their citizens
One that’s trying to cause riots so he can declare martial law.
This is the real goal.
Well the ruleing class wants higher unemployment so we know we work for them. https://www.businessinsider.com/millionaire-ceo-tim-gurner-wants-high-unemployment-sparks-online-rage-2023-9?op=1
Why do you think the poor deserve to eat?
that will only encourage them to stay alive for a bit longer...
don't know if I should include a "/s" because that's likely their opinion
Well, that certainly makes it harder to blame the Democrats for the SNAP benefit interruption. Even hardcore MAGA are now starting to think that Trump doesn't care about the plight of the common man, and they bought the "grocery prices down on day one" line.
Even if like so many Republicans you think that SNAP is for welfare queens, you should also understand that it's money spent immediately, and that benefits the local economy. Losing that money means another domino in the long line that leads to recession.
As anyone can tell you that has ever had to wade through the maze of requirements and jump through all the moving hoops of getting govt benefits they desperately need, the only REAL "welfare queens" left in the US are sitting on corporate boards like WalMart, Amazon, and McDonald's, training their new hires how to apply so they don't have to pay their workers a living wage.
Will we get to see some magats being forced to give back their (partial) snap benefits? Show us their reaction, someone make a daily compilation on both tv and internet please.
How dare you people….feed humans.
Let them sue...