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The Trump administration is telling states not to pay full November food stamp benefits, revising its previous guidance after winning a temporary victory at the Supreme Court on Friday.

USDA’s latest memo, sent Saturday to state directors of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, instructed states to deliver just 65 percent of benefits during the government shutdown and required those who already sent full payments to claw back that money.

“To the extent States sent full SNAP payment files for November 2025, this was unauthorized. Accordingly, States must immediately undo any steps taken to issue full SNAP benefits for November 2025,” the memo notes.

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (7 children)

While I can sort of understand the argument that when the government is shut down it makes food distribution more difficult.

But I can’t understand a government actively taking action to prevent food distribution by entities that are working around the shutdown.

  1. Isn’t this what supposed to be conservatives want: local government and communities more in control while less bureaucratic involvement at the federal level.
  2. people need food. Is the Republican Party actively trying to start a revolt? Forcing people to organize against the State for food safety has precedents.
[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is the Republican Party actively trying to start a revolt?

Yes, so they can declare martial law and work around the whole "elections" thing

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its so clear, I'm glad I'm not the only one saying this... its fucking disgusting.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 17 points 4 days ago

Trump said that he would end elections. He hasn’t been subtle about it.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They can just do that anyway.

I think it's more fundamental - they hate the poor and want them to starve. Any higher strategic value is secondary to the suffering. They just want hunger and death.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They are Nazis, and Nazis think that only a select few people deserve to live. Most people they see as a burden on the human race, holding it back from its full potential. They also see caring for others as a weakness that holds humanity back (conveniently enough for them). This usually goes along with some shitty self-justifying bastardization of evolutionary theory and eugenics.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know what's really holding back human potential? Needlessly starving people. There are probably thousands or millions of people who could be achieving great things if they weren't struggling to make ends meet. If we had universal basic income and people didn't have to worry so much about finding any job that will keep them from starving, people would be in a better position to go after jobs they really want and achieve their goals.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

"I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops."

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Is the Republican Party actively trying to start a revolt?

Yes. Any excuse to enact martial law and begin actively hunting their opposition like animals. They want to label those who fight back against their oppression as violent, lawless, fanatics.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 17 points 4 days ago

For 1), they use "small government" as a campaign slogan, but they are in it solely for power. Same with "state's rights", unless they can't benefit from states having those rights.

  1. They do not care. Simple. If anything it sparks activism that they'll try and use as justification for their goal of more of #1.
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Conservatives think everyone using services is a welfare queen by definition. So their solution is to kick people off, so that they're motivated to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, because then they'll be rich just like them, then everyone will be richer because they don't have to pay taxes, etc. To conservatives any government action is by definition bad and evil.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

So their solution is to kick people off, so that they’re motivated to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, because then they’ll be rich just like them, then everyone will be richer

The first bit is right, but the goal is not to make everyone richer. It's to make themselves richer off the labor of everyone else, who can live a short miserable life of impoverished servitude and die young. They don't want to pay for the sick and elderly because they see those people as worthless since they can't contribute to making the billionaires more profit. And at the bottom of it is the idea that life is a competition with winners (the rich) who deserve to win and losers (everyone else) who deserve to lose, and the purpose of life is money and power.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

They think the poor are poor because they didn't work hard enough. They think the sick are sick because they didn't work hard enough to get medical care. They think elderly that can't take care of themselves didn't work hard enough for their retirement. See everyone can be rich if they just worked. It worked for them (cough) so obviously everyone else didn't work hard enough.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To conservatives any government action is by definition bad and evil.

Well, they looooove government when it comes to cops protecting only the parasitic class and beating on/jailing/killing the unworthy and military adventures abroad to do the same...

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Even then they want private police.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

Supposedly*

And, yes. Yes, they do want that.

[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

I think they want to make it harder on folks when it is already hard enough. I hope leopards show up on their doorstep one day.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Isn’t this what supposed to be conservatives want: local government and communities more in control while less bureaucratic involvement at the federal level.

Nah, not really. The conservatives give a lot of lip service to such things, but that's not really what is motivating most of them.