You mean the referendum that California voted for? Go ahead and sue. Just make sure the Texas precedent is cited as to why so if one falls, both fall you child raping hypocrites.
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Don't forget Louisiana https://www.naacpldf.org/case-issue/louisiana-v-callais/
Probably a bigger case as far a damage.
Add in Missouri while you're at it.
"It's only legal when we do it"
Fully unironically. Can't wait to hear the SCOTUS decision explaining why California's ballot intuitive to begin to consider gerrymandering might be more illegal than states that actually just did it
Ok. But politicians can just choose to ignore court orders without any repercussions, sooooo, tough tits. Congrats on the shitty world you've made, MAGAt traitors.
Unfortunately, House Speakers can just choose to ignore the results of an election and refuse to seat representatives
They can't. The only way he's managing to do this is by keeping the House on recess. Once it's open again, she can be sworn in by anyone
And states can refuse to hand over income taxes and keep them for themselves.
states can refuse to hand over income taxes
Why do I keep seeing this posted? That's not how income taxes work. The state does not collect income tax on behalf of the feds.
No, but I think the idea is that the state will collect federal taxes in escrow and then say they will protect the state's citizens from federal prosecution. The taxes are there and collected but the state is showing its value to the United States monetarily. It's absolutely not lawful but none of this shit is. Not in any good faith measure at least.
I think the idea is that the state will collect federal taxes in escrow
That's not how the IRS works. Never has been.
It’s absolutely not lawful but none of this shit is
It's not feasible. What are you even proposing? That the New York State Government try and seize federal tax revenue from IRS offices in the state? Given how much money is functionally digital, I'm not even sure how that would work.
Might as well say they should nationalize the NYSE while you're at it.
I think every reasonable person knows that it isn't how it works currently. People are saying that it's what could and maybe should happen. Individuals have an escrow account created and monitored by the state to send their federal taxes into. It's on the individual to be correct and maintain a receipt but then it always is anyway, isn't it? It is not exactly uncomplicated but it's not impossible. I'm not arguing for people doing it, but as an extreme measure to choke the federal government, yeah. I could get on board with it.
Typically the state government is the largest single employer in any given state. If California withheld all their public employees's federal income tax, Uncle Sam would feel that pretty sharply, especially if joined by New York and New England.
If California withheld all their public employees’s federal income tax
The payroll system is fully privatized. California bureaucrats don't control it, they just submit information to private banks and payment processors.
Again, you don't understand how the IRS actually functions. Or how HR and payroll function. There isn't a big toggle under the governor's desk that stops W-2 withholdings for every state employee.
If you tried to do this inside a single company, you'd be setting off alarms in whatever bank or accounting firm you contracted to process paychecks. Even just an individual trying to zero out withholdings with get a dirty look from HR and a polite deny.
The 'big toggle under the governors desk' is sending law enforcement to all the banks and forcing them to reroute all money that would otherwise go to the IRS. Comply or go to jail and we close your bank down for a couple days and cost you billions for good measure.
How would that work?
Am I misunderstanding how federal income tax works? To my knowledge, the state government isn't involved.
You're correct.
States are not involved with collecting income taxes generally.
They could refuse to collect income tax from state employees, but that's only a few billion if all blue states did it.
"States' rights for me, but not for thee!"
The conservative motto for eons
Meanwhile Ohio is over here with self-ruled illegal maps, which they already used in an election...
Just do what Republicans in other states do... never make new maps and then just use these maps anyway because oops too late.
Courts need to start having a plan B for when the legislature refuses to play ball. "Submit the new maps for review or the election happens with the maps from 1999!
Californians will vote more after this, now that they feel their vote matters more
Wait, I thought this was the will of the people. According to Donbald's supporters, if you even win by a cunt hair, you have license to do nearly anything, because "will of the people".
What happened?
Suing on something that hasn’t been drafted — the actual redrawn maps. Good luck with that argument. /s
Do it and make a precedent.