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[–] Keld@hexbear.net 68 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I never found strangling to be particularly up my alley, and I get that it is introducing a lot of people to a potentially very harmful sexual practise without giving them the tools to actually do it. However fuck off Kid Harmer. Why is literally the only bit of state capacity you endorse getting into people's bedrooms, looking at their junk or monitoring their porn? Fuck off.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah. Even the "safe" way to do it is one of the most dangerous and "even done completely right, this can still just randomly kill someone^[Due to the risk of blood clots and stroke from stopping the movement of blood through the artery that's entering the brain. It also probably causes minor brain damage every single time, even without a loss in consciousness, and as a result can cause neurological problems if that randomly happens to hit something important.]" kinks someone can engage in and it being mainstreamed into vanilla porn as just like a thing people spontaneously do is bad, but the solution would be like mandating warning labels with sex-positive education on how fucked this is on videos featuring real or simulated choking, not the UK's usual "oh heavens a kink, I must send in the constables and retire to my fainting couch and pray to the depraved sex pest royals for salvation" shit.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Can't see a titty but ai can coach young kids on how to take their lives, makes sense.

[–] OffSeasonPrincess@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Just banning stuff basically never works and especially not for something like this thats overwhelmingly online and a lot of which is grey-market to begin with

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 58 points 2 months ago (3 children)

None of this censorship effort is being directed against medical misinformation or reactionaries BTW. Compare this bourgeois moralism with Chinese censorship efforts. Even though their state censors go too far at times, at least they attack online misinformation and harmful shit.

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

The West (most of it at least) doesn't care about misinformation or harmful content/hate speech, they even help promote it with shit like Radio Free Asia and Radio Free Cuba, and the millions of christian fascist missionaries they finance to travel around to world that spreads their hateful ideology and views to the Global South.

They just want to use the excuse of "banning pornography" to crackdown on LGBTQ+ media.

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, China bangs all pornography

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There's actually a really funny loophole/phenomena where China bans all outright sexual pornography, but it doesn't ban the adjacent non sexual bondage erotica type videos and photos. So you can find videos of a "relationship drama where a woman is kidnapped by another woman and menaced" type thing that is super horny but never sexual. Then a funny subset is there are people who dress up as the police or PLA etc and do horny trials of spies/corrupt official etc. They pretend it's a morality type play, but it's just entirely horny. Then photos of these hit the Western internent and they get presented as proof of China's secret purges. When it's just a bunch of horny larpers and BDSM nerds.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (7 children)

China banning porn is like the single issue thing I don't agree with the CPC on, but from what I gather it's super easy to use a vpn in country and sidestep the firewall so it's really whatever.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

there's also drugs for fun, but in both cases it's fairly understandable why they arrived at their prohibitions. it isn't religious moralizing.

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[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

China bangs all pornography

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It wouldn't even take much either, most of the tech platforms can reasonably detect hateful and shitty content. They could block it before anyone sees it, they just choose not to until it's reported. Government could easily place a burden upon the operator to pre-emptively remove content just the same as they're doing here with kink porn and they would enforce it.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Most tech platforms and western governments even promote reactionary content. A neutral no censorship approach would be an improvement over the current situation.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

obligatory "got a loiciense for" yes-honey-left

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they ban face sitting porn and some other years ago?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Jesus what's next banning blowjobs because it's a choking hazard?!

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I expect to see the same reaction from you guys when they ban wargames normalizing and encouraging unlimited genocide.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

unlimited genocide

took-restraint

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Games Workshop is like 40% of the UK economy, sadly they will never ban the plastic army men.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

They're banning the pornography but are they banning searching for the pornography?

Like, whatever man if they wanna try and stop it from existing by blocking it fine, they'll fail. Are they gonna arrest me if I look up and find asphyxiation porn though? Am I going on a sex offenders register for viewing consensual adults doing consensual kink?

More important question than the poor hard done by pornography producers tbh. I don't give a fuck about them particularly.

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago

My general stance is that pornography and sex work contains a whole bunch of contradictions. There are harmful behaviors, practices and coercions that should be policed. But an overzealous bourgeois state having a moral panic will rarely fix these issues and often overcorrect into punishing innocent people and even victims, while absolving perpetrators. Ideally any change should be driven or with input by the workers and community.

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if this only extends to "IRL" porn or if it also extends to things like fanfiction and animations? I guess if the argument is to not promote choking then it makes sense to extend it to all types of porn. But if it's only about actress welfare then it's not clear how the law would be applied to types of porn with no actors/actresses.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (6 children)

But if it's only about actress welfare

I doubt actresses/actors in porn are actually being asphyxiated.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I would absolutely not stake anything on that. Sexual violence against porn actresses is rampant.

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've read accounts of women who've left the porn industry and there's a lot of fucked up shit that happens in scenes. There's definitely a non-zero amount of choking scenes in porn that are real choking.

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

After learning about the whole GirlsDoPorn thing I honestly believe that a lot of the violence against women depicted in porn is real.

CW sexual abuse, drugging, misogyny, trauma for the article https://www.404media.co/michael-james-pratt-girls-do-porn-sentencing-memorandum-trial/

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I doubt actresses/actors in porn are actually being asphyxiated.

I'd like to think so, but I've been on this planet long enough to know that's not true. There's plenty of horrendous stuff on the front page of every tube site. I think there was a study done on this, and the results were bad...

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