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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 65 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Good satire makes you feel a combination of amusement and focused fury. This does that.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 22 points 5 months ago

Hell, the post headline had me there already.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I mean, I think assuming AI replaces enough jobs to cause unrest, tech and billionaires may end up supporting UBI. But they would do so while also demanding low taxes and receiving that, since they can afford to lobby for it.

In that case, UBI would be mostly derived from workers' salaries' and similar regressive tax revenues. Which is exactly why billionaires would be fine with it.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I'm sure their version of UBI will include a clause for recipients to be on birth control. Eventually unrest will be at manageable population levels without the need for it.

And many people will accept it because "if you can't afford to have children, you shouldn't".

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That will start an internal war with the "trad wife" billionaires

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure that's codeword for "Chist"ian Harem, they won't care about the poors if they get theirs.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Realistically they will all look the other way until it becomes financially inconvenient.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Nitpick: that would be a BI, not a UBI.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. They don't need to. Billionaires can afford to pay some paramilitary groups to defend them, and kill everyone else. Easy.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I think billionaires have thought through the scenario where there are millions of starving, desperate people and law alone can't protect them. I would imagine they prepare for it like the survivors in a zombie movie, living holed up in a compound, with similar chances of using force-based defense alone. Their defense only needs to fail once to be catastrophic (for them).

I can imagine a regressive taxed UBI that doesn't financially impact them is a very appealing alternative to that.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

They can have multiple layers of defense.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Much near-future science fiction has the lowest of us depending on a form of UBI. It's a more efficient use of welfare benefits. As you said, it won't be what people envision.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Instead, AI-powered euthanasia pods will be provided for those who are economically surplus to requirements.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 months ago

For a humble fee of course

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Each employee will sit in a pod at the end of the work day so the AI can decide which ones need to be euthanized

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

Dead serious choice between UBI or genocide of any resistance to oligarchy. A slave class is super useful... when its labour is needed. Fascist extermination of anyone uppity has more short term profits.

Palantir Zionazi absolutist pig fucker, Alex Karp, this morning, said his surveillance state software, entirely for Skynet genocide power, will help solve poverty. Both him and Elon Musk, say any of their shareholders who don't agree with every theft they conduct against them, are terrorist woke scum. Elon needs mechahitler to control a 1M robot army ($250k a piece), or helping Tesla is a waste of time. Meanwhile China has better humanoid robots from multiple vendors released today below $16k.

The end result of genociding every American other than top 5m who can afford healthcare, is a tiny isolated economy that no one wants to trade with. The process though, is extremely profitable for the suppliers of genocide equipment. Even when the genocide is complete, the robot army can protect power.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

In actual non-ironic news, UBI is not just the best but the only plausible remedy for AI job losses that I have ever heard of. It's still not a great solution, though. A disturbingly small number of people are able to derive meaning from anything other than work.

And people without meaning get nasty.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Except there's one small problem: AI is nowhere near ready to replace humans at the scale tech CEOs claim it will or even does. All what CEOs did is to force smaller crew to work 72 hours a week, which sure will be very sustainable in the short run.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So make them pick up trash or something to get the check? Your argument sounds a lot like perfection getting in the way of progress.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Yes, the people without meaning. Your antecedent.