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[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

I mean, I think assuming AI replaces enough jobs to cause unrest, tech and billionaires may end up supporting UBI. But they would do so while also demanding low taxes and receiving that, since they can afford to lobby for it.

In that case, UBI would be mostly derived from workers' salaries' and similar regressive tax revenues. Which is exactly why billionaires would be fine with it.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I'm sure their version of UBI will include a clause for recipients to be on birth control. Eventually unrest will be at manageable population levels without the need for it.

And many people will accept it because "if you can't afford to have children, you shouldn't".

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That will start an internal war with the "trad wife" billionaires

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Pretty sure that's codeword for "Chist"ian Harem, they won't care about the poors if they get theirs.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Realistically they will all look the other way until it becomes financially inconvenient.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Nitpick: that would be a BI, not a UBI.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. They don't need to. Billionaires can afford to pay some paramilitary groups to defend them, and kill everyone else. Easy.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think billionaires have thought through the scenario where there are millions of starving, desperate people and law alone can't protect them. I would imagine they prepare for it like the survivors in a zombie movie, living holed up in a compound, with similar chances of using force-based defense alone. Their defense only needs to fail once to be catastrophic (for them).

I can imagine a regressive taxed UBI that doesn't financially impact them is a very appealing alternative to that.

[–] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

They can have multiple layers of defense.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Much near-future science fiction has the lowest of us depending on a form of UBI. It's a more efficient use of welfare benefits. As you said, it won't be what people envision.