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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 153 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The only Congresional poll that matters is the one next November, and Republicans are doing everything they can to make sure that they can still control Congress, even if the Majority of voters don't want them to.

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[–] _chris@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago

Which is exactly why the nazis in charge are already undermining elections and have been for years. Building up deniability in the minds of their racist voters to make it easier to control the results if not throw them out entirely.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Don’t worry, the Democratic establishment will figure out a way to quickly fuck this up before the midterm elections.

I’m sure they will choose a panel of milquetoast corporate centrist neo-liberal fuck wads for the people to choose from and again blame it on voter apathy. add a little corporate campaign, finance rule, bending to funnel the most amount of money towards their desired candidate and you have the classic recipe for “ Why do Democrats always lose elections?”

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is so much easier and so much more profitable to be the minority party of opposition to evil. You don't need exciting new ideas, just exciting "back to normal" ideas. ...and even "normal" can be made progressively shittier every cycle.

The rich and powerful can handpick their favorite candidates, negotiate a few table scraps in the direction of normal that they're willing to accept, and call it a win. The campaign industrial complex gets to make a shit load of money.

Most importantly, their ultimate campaign slogan is "Vote for me, or else evil wins." Easy money all around.

Then when nothing good happens during a Democrats's turn, they can blame Democrats and then the Republicans they handpick get to ratchet things back in the rich's direction again.

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[–] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same as the first Trump admin. Dude can't govern, and people will respond to that. Except this time he's ethnically cleansing rather than just doing covid wrong.

Everyone in the US better hope dems can field a candidate through their fucked up primary system that's gonna be young and re-electable. It's gonna take at least 8 years to even slightly unfuck this mess.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

8 years… ha ha ha!!! I know you said at least but I'm not sure will ever truly know how much they’ve fucked things up. I’m 55 and I doubt it will be fixed before I die.

And if they don’t put some guardrails with some serious teeth and consequences to fix all of things most politicians generally followed in good faith it’s just gonna happen again. I’m seriously starting to believe the American experiment is over. Late stage capitalism, tribalism, and any appearance of empathy have killed it.

[–] 0k_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm 28 and I doubt it'll be meaningfully fixed before I die. Shit's been beyond fucked basically my entire adult life, and just regular fucked since well before that.

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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Seems unlikely but goddamn do I hope fukkin so

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

TBH I don't care about a 2018 lead, I want to see the 1975-1979 lead where the Democrats gain supermajority. I want to see 1894 type of numbers where the overreaching party who implemented tariffs see a 100+ seat loss.

I want every single Republican out of a job.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

100+ seat loss isn’t possible in the US. City/Suburban ideology is the polar opposite of the rural one. Our system gives disproportionate voices to people who live in rural areas. Young people today have left their rural communities for the cities because it’s not possible to lead a comfortable working life in rural America anymore. The Carter flip was only possible because the democratic base was diffused across many rural counties; that’s not the case anymore.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 week ago (7 children)

A lot of rural folks are getting hurt right now

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It literally happened in the exact example I gave. Only 35 seats total are up for reelection in the house but I was being clear about what I wanted.

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[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Really, though, it says a lot about how shitty the democratic party is that the headline says “since 2018” instead of “since the beginning of time”. Trump is a disgusting, rancorous idiot. Everything about him is vile, from his appearance to his voice to his tiny reptilian brain. The fact that the democrats came in second to this human shitstain strongly suggests that the must have, oh i dunno, badly and repeatedly disappointed the american people.

Maybe they could shit-can their entire leadership and get behind someone like Mamdani. Or just disband and make room for a new party.

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[–] HuskerNation@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I remember the poll that had Harris winning Iowa in a landslide that was way off. Polls are shit, just show up and vote

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Since the last time they forgot they made the same mistake.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Because for almost a year now the DNC has been taking all the money Hillary/Biden/Kamala stole from state parties, back to the state parties.

Who have been using the funds to work at campaign staffing levels we usually only see for a few months before election.

That outreach is working, and no one should be surprised.

It's just the goal of neoliberlism is a neoliberal president and at most either the House or Senate. If/when they get it all, they have to make up excuses for why they're not doing what they said they'd do.

It's like when an athlete bets their team will win, but not beat the spread...

Sometimes they end up losing the game by trying to keep it close. But their motivation isn't winning games, it's hitting the sweet spot where they get a bunch of unethical money

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 week ago

they’re the ones that have passed campaign finance regulations, though. You don’t see any Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders on the other side

[–] Tehbaz@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Until Citizens United is overturned and campaign finance is heavily restricted by Congress, another Democrat administration will simply ratchet themselves further to the right and serve the same oligarchs the Republicans do. Very little will change to improve the lives of ordinary people, and once again the Republicans will use that to take full control in the following cycle.

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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (7 children)

And they will still manage to fuck it up somehow

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago

Next headline, in November: "Unexpected last-minute swing to GOP."

And the obvious conclusion will never be drawn.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In a sane world, Dems should be leading by high double-digits, but alas.

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[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 24 points 1 week ago

Don’t worry. MAGA will figure out a way to cancel future elections.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Is there any reason to trust these polls? I feel like they've been wrong since 2016

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The problem with 2016 was that the polls accurately predicted who would win the popular vote, because that's what they measure. The 270toWin poll based outcome showed Trump's chance of victory LINK HERE, and so did 538 which is no longer available as it was purchased by ABC News and taken offline.

Trump's loss in 2020 and victory again in 2024 were also predicted by both aggregate polls and online betting platforms.

The problem with poll inaccuracy is solved by two methods: increased sample size and giving priority based on perceived bias (gaining back points for having clear and accurate data available to the public).

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

So Shittler will say elections are stolen and illegal when the midterms roll around and maga gets tossed to the curb? And then what?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Democratic Leadership: Hold my beer

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They will take that lead and intentionally fuck it up again.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 week ago

cool just let the fascists carry on then

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's see how the DNC snatches victory from the jaws of defeat this time.

[–] lemmyseikai@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Did you mean defeat from the jaws of victory?

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

Fuck yes.... posted way too early haha

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Maybe, just maybe, they're so incompetent that they get the phrase wrong and accidentally win?

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"Generic Democrat" always does better in polls than any "Actual Democrat". Dem voters conduct annoying purity tests on most candidates and love to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in order to feel good about themselves.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Dumbshit Democrat voters need to be reminded how horrible Trump is. Can't remember just four fucking years ago.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago (11 children)

The Democratic establishment has still failed to line up and support Mamdani in NY, so there isn't going to be much patience on the left for hearing about what Democratic "voters" don't get. The voters aren't the source of the problem.

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[–] JHRD1880@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We'll see, it's still ages until the midterms. Let's first assume there will be midterms.

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