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[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 69 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Are these nazis referring to how german settlers were expelled from eastern europe after ww2? Like buddy they stole people's homes? What the fuck do you expect?

Thats like saying its theft to return something a murderous thief stole from its rightful owner because the thief was using it at the time.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago

Considering how the fascists do math about red 'crimes' they probably count the Volga Germans among these

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago (9 children)

It can't, or the math doesn't add up. They have to be counting "Sudeten Germans.""Sudeten Germans" had lived in the area for centuries, although only under that name after the dissolution of Austria-Hungary (As prior to that they would have been Austrians, or German Austrians). But these people were not "German settlers", that is frankly inaccurate
Now, Sudeten Germans are noteworthy for a lot of things, joining the nazi party at a higher rate than the rest of Germany, eagerly participating in the administration of the nazi puppet state that suppressed their former countrymen, and for initially including most of the Jewish population of the area (The Jewish population were swiftly excised from the definition of a "German" even though they were part of the culture and had identified under that term).

What happened to the Germans there was fully ethnic cleansing, albeit a nicer one than half of them were going to expose their Slavic countrymen to.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm Czech and had Sudeten relatives that weren't removed, the ones that voted for the Nazis had their whole family removed (my relatives voted for the "communists" as they didn't approve of the escalation against their Czech relatives, a couple experienced racist violence due to marrying non Germans as well). Iirc only the household head could vote and they didn't want to split families, so thats why so few were left.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 days ago

I'm of partial Sudeten German heritage, and the events in the area were unfortunate and more nuanced than the different settler analogies that people on here like to present. Since most don't really have a connection to that topic, its easy to be flippant.

Like my grandparent really only thought of Czechia as their home ever, even claiming that our family wasnt "truly german". However by that point in time the “ethnic relations” between Germans & Czechs were so polarized, that it kinda was domed. And you dont really come back from trying to genocide your neighbours.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

a lot more than just the sudeten germans. there was a german diaspora all over eastern europe, going back centuries. old german villages in hungary, romania, russia. poland of course, though there the germans were more of a colonizing force even in the past.

a lot of these german communities supported the nazis during the war (IIRC there were old german mennonite villages in the east who were supposed to be religiously pacifist but somehow found it OK to do a bit of holocaust.

some fled west during the closing months of the war. after the war, the warsaw pact countries shipped a lot of the remainder to germany (dont know the proportions of those that stayed vs those that got shipped off). the rest are still here, but a lot more assimilated.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

a lot more than just the sudeten germans

Yes, but the Sudeten Germans are a group that were vociferously pro nazi, need to be included to get the numbers, and were absolutely ethnically cleansed.

a lot of these german communities supported the nazis during the war (IIRC there were old german mennonite villages in the east who were supposed to be religiously pacifist but somehow found it OK to do a bit of holocaust.

I think you're mixing two things together. You might be thinking of the Russian civil war were these groups would engage in violence against Slavs in Ukraine despite their supposed religious objection to violence. This was part of the reason for Makhno's black forces engaging in ethnic violence against these people. However German Mennonites were not ethnically cleansed from the Soviet union. Germans were internally deported in the soviet union during the war itself (Which wasn't great for much the same reason that the Japanese internment camps were bad), and those who moved west did so at the behest of the nazis, and Germans essentially self deported from areas that would be occupied by the Soviet union itself in actions like Operation Hannibal. German Mennonites as far as I'm aware did not constitute a significant nazi population, but Sudeten Germans did to a grotesque degree. German Mennonites in the former soviet union (RIP doggirl-cry are also usually seen as a subgroup of Baltic Germans, a group that have their own weird relationship with population transfers, seeing as they were exposed to forced population transfers/ethnic cleansing by Nazi Germany.

the warsaw pact countries shipped a lot of the remainder to germany

Yes that's why I said you need to include groups like the Sudeten Germans to make the math work. roughly 8 million Germans were expelled from Poland and the rest, apart from the Sudeten Germans, are a rounding errors in comparison. Like adding up all the population transfers, prison sentences in the soviet union and all the rest you might get to 200000 Germans in Hungary who were expelled, the most anti soviet sources give estimates around 200000-300000 for Romania from what I can tell, and in Yugoslavia those who didn't flee with the nazi army were subject to reprisals from locals (Duh) and chose to leave when they were offered German citizenship in like 1950 but even if we count every single German as having been ethnically cleansed from Yugoslavia we just don't get the numbers.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Germans were internally deported in the soviet union during the war itself (Which wasn't great for much the same reason that the Japanese internment camps were bad)

The Japanese internment camps were bad because the USA is a white supremacist settler-colonial shithole and interned the ethnic Japanese because they viewed them as racially inferior nonwhite collaborators of a racially inferior nonwhite enemy who are racially predisposed to betrayal based on their yellow skin color and the latest phrenological breakthroughs in skull shape of the time.

Whatever the USSR did to their germans can't be compared to that racist white supremacist nonsense.

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second-breakfast We've had double genocide theory, yes, but what about triple genocide?

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Replies to that Tweet very quickly devolve into open anti-semitism and unironic pro-Nazism.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago

yeah “ethnically cleansed”. by other white people. so now being tried for your crimes is “ethnically cleansing” whites. makes sense from the “coming to the country we stole from the natives after we bombed your country to nothing is white genocide” crowd

[–] AstroStelar@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

In the Netherlands we learned about the public shaming of "moffenmeiden" (an English translation would be "kraut girls"), Dutch women who entered relationships with German soldiers. A Dutch docu series gave a number of 140,000. The most common act of shaming was shaving them bald.

There were also calls to annex "German territory free of Germans", but in the end only a few villages were annexed and it was all returned in 1963 save for one hill near Nijmegen.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago

"Tyskertøser/Feltmadrasser" (German girls/Field mattresses) was a similar phenomenon in Denmark. What is striking is that many of the actual collaborators got off. The heads of the police under German control suffered no repurcussions, Nils Svenningsen who ran the unelected fully nazi aligned government at the end of the war stayed in government until the 60s with a brief stint as ambassador to Sweden specifically to avoid having to face members of the public he would have repressed during his rule of Denmark, his Danish wikipedia pages explicitly notes that he was motivated by "Loyalty and a sense of duty [...] regardless of the popular sentiment", turning what should be a major indictment of a major collaborator into hagiography.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

this also happened in France, including the head-shaving

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 3 days ago (4 children)

All those fucking crackers in USA seems to be really afraid someone will make them go back to fucking England.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

Ok, to be fair that’s a very reasonable fear.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

arent like half the whites in the US from germany originally?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah but i think deporting them to England too would be funnier.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

funnier

the english would deport them to rwanda. the english would deport white people to rwanda and you're laughing.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 3 days ago

Rwanda has suffered enough without being flooded with yankees

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

It will be especially funny if a bunch of ethnically Fr*nch Americans get deported to England.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

Fuck I wish someone would. Every time I go outside and feel the sun sting on my skin I curse my ancestors for leaving the sunless island we evolved to live on

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[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The term "ethnic cleansing" is totally inappropriate and clearly being used to push an awful agenda here, but — hot take alert — claiming German civilians as slaves as part of the reparations deal was not a good look

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

There is very valid criticism for the lack of any proper denazification being carried out.

Victims should be given reparations, not pass on carrying out personal vengeance, is one of the major lessons that seems to have not been taught properly. Tragedy stops being tragic the moment there's a reward attached to suffering it.

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 45 points 3 days ago

There's no hate like Christian love.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They got German citizenship ffs. "Ethnic cleansing".

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

In the wise words of Delsin Rowe:

“Eye for an eye, asshole.”

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Man, all that and the Germans still didn't learn not to support states engaged in ethnic cleansing?

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Yeah because if I'm not mistaken the germans who were "ethnically cleansed" in this case were simply being kicked out of the places that they ethnically cleansed themselves as part of lebensraum in eastern europe. As in they went eastward to invade other countries, kill the native inhabitants, and steal their land.

*edit: apparently there were also a bunch of germans who were living in the area pre ww2 called "sudeten germans" or something who were technically "ethnically cleansed", main reason why germany supports zionism is that germany was never truly denazified

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[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The yank looted and burned my grandma's city in western france

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

@groKKK@hexbear.net did a white genocide happen in Germany after ww2?

[–] groKKK@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I am not aware of this theory, but it seems very important if true. Indeed, it would recontextualise the current white genocide in South Africa as only one of multiple such tragedies—possibly as part of a single unified plan. Should this be found to be true, a large part of humanity shall be found to be in mortal danger due to the inevitability of more atrocities down the line, with the goal of destroying all white people. One has to wonder who could be at the inception of such a terrible, insipid, vile and inhuman master plan. In any case, I urge all readers to keep their eyes on South Africa, and to keep denouncing the crimes committed by the South African government.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago

kkkristian moment

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[–] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

fascist on xtwitter? most unsurprising considering the owner.. also, many fascists flocked to defend the guy in the comments, unsurprisingly, anti-Semitic remarks too.

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