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[–] dead@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

OSINT twitter says that Israel is ramping up attacks on Gaza before the ceasefire goes into affect.

https://xcancel.com/sentdefender/status/1976064041006268574#m

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Famous straight-shooter and good faith guarantor Donald Trump. 😬

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's going to want the nobel for this lmao, that's like your geriatric neighbor getting his rabid dog to stop biting you and demanding the medal of honor for it.

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The nobel prize is literally the only thing that gives this a chance. Trump may want it bad enough that he puts some pressure on Israel to follow it.

Would not be shocked if it falls apart anyway since once the hostages are released there’s basically no leverage. Could see it immediately falling apart after he gets the award if he somehow gets it too.

[–] AutoVomBizMarkee@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Listen we have to blindly believe in this because otherwise you are a bad doomer. Trump keeps his promises and isntreal does not want to do a final solution to all of Palestine. Yay wooo I will never be fooled again besides this time 🫥

[–] dead@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you should look to how Palestinians are responding to the news. In my experience so far, I've only seen Palestinians responding positively to this agreement.

I'm skeptical of the deal. I think that Israel isn't taken to international court, they will keep doing the same war crimes against Palestinians and other countries.

However, I think it's important to consider the perspective of the victims, mainly Palestinians. If the victims of Israeli violence are happy about the deal, then the deal is likely good.

[–] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I've only seen Palestinians responding positively to this agreement.

anything that makes missiles stop will do that. but yea, zero reason to trust isntreal when we know they want to exterminate every palestinian, its not a secret.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

the resistance is keeping their weapons, this is key. if isntrael tries to restart the genocide the Palestinians will fight back as fiercely as they have been for the past two years. Egypt, Qatar and Turkey seems invested in this deal as well, and I think that's the bigger factor than Trump. No blind trust here, though maybe a bit of glazing trump's notorious ego. But words are cheap. Guns aren't.

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the reaction to this in the other thread is frankly embarrassing. It's like people here became gullible libs overnight.

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

It’s more embarrassing to bombard a Palestinian with “Israel isn’t trustworthy” for daring to express hope for peace, like that’s a revelation for the literal occupied people

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Multiple sources from Hamas and other Palestinian factions have told Drop Site that their central concern in these negotiations was that handing over all Israeli captives would remove nearly all of their leverage if it did not include a complete Israeli withdrawal. Israel has, as a matter of policy, systematically violated its ceasefire agreements with Hamas and also with Lebanon. In entering into these negotiations, Hamas negotiators accepted they were engaging in a high-stakes gamble.

“This is a risk, but we trusted President Trump to be the guarantor of all the commitments made,” said Mousa Abu Marzouk, a senior Hamas leader, in an interview with Drop Site on Monday. “Had there been no commitment from the American president, we would never have agreed to take the risk, because we do not trust Netanyahu or his extremist right‑wing team in the current Israeli government.”

The Palestinian negotiators, after consultations with a range of factions, agreed to a deal that will keep Israeli forces in Gaza even after all Israeli captives are handed over to Israel. Throughout the negotiations over the past several months, Hamas has insisted it would not enter into a deal that did not include the complete withdrawal of Israeli occupation forces. “This is something they were not able to move,” the source said. While the exact lines that Israeli forces will redeploy to as part of the exchange of captives are still being worked out, Israeli forces will remain entrenched in Gaza.

That is an enormous risk but when your people are going to be starved to death I guess there wasn’t much of a choice.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

They're going to be releasing several thousand Palestinians at the same time, so it's not a bad trade. But generally it looks like they were under a lot of pressure from the Arab states and future deals were unlikely to be more favorable.

[–] dead@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

War Criminal Netanyahu posted on twitter in Hebrew that Israel is going with the deal.

A great day for Israel. I will convene the government tomorrow to ratify the agreement and bring all our precious hostages home.

I thank the heroic IDF soldiers and all the security forces whose courage and sacrifice have brought us to this day.

I thank President Trump and his team from the bottom of my heart for their commitment to this sacred mission of freeing our hostages.

With God's help, together we will continue to achieve all our goals and expand peace with our neighbors.

https://xcancel.com/netanyahu/status/1976065453807034399#m

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With God's help, together we will continue to achieve all our goals and expand peace with our neighbors.

Well, that's ominous considering the goals they've been achieving and their definition of peace

[–] Lenins_Sabocat@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 months ago

And expanding territory...

[–] dead@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

Update from Hamas, in response to the Trump truthsocial post

https://xcancel.com/DropSiteNews/status/1976064587263885416#m