I'm jewish and i will never forgive them for what they have done. Such a huge stain on society and so little accountability.
Fediverse vs Disinformation
Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.
Propaganda and disinformation are a big problem on the internet, and the Fediverse is no exception.
What's the difference between misinformation and disinformation? The inadvertent spread of false information is misinformation. Disinformation is the intentional spread of falsehoods.
By equipping yourself with knowledge of current disinformation campaigns by state actors, corporations and their cheerleaders, you will be better able to identify, report and (hopefully) remove content matching known disinformation campaigns.
Community rules
Same as instance rules, plus:
- No disinformation
- Posts must be relevant to the topic of astroturfing, propaganda and/or disinformation
Related websites
- EU vs Disinfo
- FactCheck.org
- PolitiFact
- Snopes
- Media Bias / Fact Check
- PEN America
- Media Matters
- FAIR
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You can't put the shit back in the horse
They might someday. We came around to Germany and Japan eventually. They just need to stop and ideally apologize and send the perpetrators ro prison then give it a few decades
I had a great uncle who was hostile at anyone who drove a Japanese car. More so if they were Japanese. He had seen a lot in the pacific and he never forgave Japan. So a few decades may be more like when all the ones affected are dead.
Apologize, disarm, reeducation, rebuild Gaza, reparations for a generation, land back.
Sadly, zero chance z*onists would let that happen
The only thing I've ever known about Israel has been sociopaths in tanks vs children throwing rocks.
The fact Israeli propaganda has EVER worked is wild and I don't think it's as much of a lost cause as this article seems to think.
The fact Israeli propaganda has EVER worked is wild and I don’t think it’s as much of a lost cause as this article seems to think.
Before the internet, practically 100% of people in Western society thought Israel was the good guys. Literally the only exceptions you would know about were Bernie Sanders and Noam Chomsky, and maybe one weird guy you knew who mostly wore T-shirts and often a heavy coat for some reason and didn't comb his hair. And to everyone else, it was a "peace process" where terrorists kept attacking Israel and they had to figure out what to do about it to make that stop. Read some Chomsky from that era if you want to know what it was like, and realize that up until about 2000, he was this wild traitor to America to almost everybody outside of specifically leftist political circles.
There are still some remnants of that old-world viewpoint today, in terms of people who grew up reading the New York Times and the Financial Times and whatnot and haven't ever really gotten out of the habit. I don't feel like the propaganda has ever had all that much of a chokehold outside of that grouping. The problem is that except for a couple of outliers, our current government is entirely staffed at the highest levels by those remnants.
It has taken 2 years of a live-streamed genocide for the MoistCr1TiKaLs of the world to put on their black tee shits and say maybe Israel are the bad guys here. The internet has actually changed things less that we would like to think.
People, in general, want to offload their critical thinking to a 3rd party because they're too busy trying to survive capitalism and that hasn't really changed, if anything it's gotten worse.
Maybe living under the Australian settler colonialist project made me more aware of Israels true face than most but it feels like the news media has always been fine with showing blatant Israeli crimes and then gaslighting the audience because the cognitive dissonance was the whole entire point.
the news media has always been fine with showing blatant Israeli crimes and then gaslighting the audience because the cognitive dissonance was the whole entire point.
Oh that part I will completely agree with. My point is that even as far back ago as the Iraq War, anyone who talked good sense about geopolitics would get wild applause from the studio audience. And of course likewise for Israel, I think. Inside the media landscape is a much different beast, it is artificial in there (and that is on purpose and unlikely to change for as long as it is corporate owned, which probably will be quite a while.)
they had the hide behind, calling people anti-semites for like 60+years shield on thier side. plus the holocaust gave them alot of clout to use, they had infinite good PR. plus shows like Ncis was pretty good israeli propaganda, aka ZIVA/israel
Yeah, her observations are necessarily limited to people a) capable of thinking for themselves and b) with the time energy and skill to curate their media intake.
Ain't happening ever again. They're facing the end of their control over the Western world and it's shattering them. They're gonna get even more brutal and violent as they enter their extinction burst but once that no longer gets a favorable response, they'll either come to the table humbled or they'll completely collapse.
thats why they recently paid google like 40+ million to issue straight, israeli propaganda on the platform recently on YOUTUBE.
The biggest danger of an unstable isreal is the fact they have nuclear weapons.
cmon... this is a but hyperbolic.. israel has a few masters that prevent outright armageddon... a lil genocide is how the u.s. came to be, but nukes... thats a non starter
There is a pretty realistic nightmare scenario where the US withdraws support from Israel, its massively more powerful neighbors (notably Iran) start attacking it and giving it an absolute shellacking including tons of dead civilians in the streets and its territory crumbling day by day to an invasion, and then it decides to "defend" itself by starting to throw nukes around, because it's game over otherwise so why not.
I don't think even Netanyahu would attack someone with nuclear weapons simply as part of their ordinary murder geopolitics, but for an existential threat I think it's completely realistic, and I also think it's completely realistic that Israel without Western support would face an existential threat.
Also russia doesnt like israel that much, plus they are allies of IRAN. they may have excuse to control that area sooner or later.
**faster than expected™️
again?
Of course they do. Time sanctifies all crimes. And the propaganda already works on a lot of the world currently.
they took over r/worldnews as soon the war broke out, it was a sudden change it dint take much actually.
Heads up, this author is weird.
Her feed is roughly 90% just generic pro-Palestinian stuff, which, sure, sounds fine, and then 10% of it is crazy shit:
- Bernie Sanders is a Ghoulish Zionist
- AOC is a Genocidal Con Artist
- "To be clear I would be just as unmoved if a mainstream Democrat-aligned manipulator like Bill Maher or Joe Scarborough was killed, and I would be just as disdainful of their memory."
I can't find the one where she was repeating Russian talking point dogwhistles about how NATO is trying to start World War 3, ~~or how Europe turning to clean energy is dooming them to economic ruin~~ (edit: I was wrong that was someone else), but ~~those were~~ (that was) in there somewhere too.
I have no idea why she's super gung ho about the intricate details of American politics and not as much about Australian politics (where she's from), either.
Anyway I can't really tell if it's malicious in some way, or if she just likes talking about American politics but isn't aware of any details about it beyond "Israel's the worst," but her viewpoint is often weird.
"She's weird because she criticises the Democrats"
In all 4 statements you attribute to her she is completely correct. Bernie and AOC are zionazis, the deaths of ghouls should be celebrated, and NATO is clearly trying to maneuver for a world war with China before the outcome is even more a forgone conclusion.