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Seriously, what Israel is doing today is no different from what the Nazis did before and at the beginning of World War II, extreme nationalism, illegal expansion, annexation of foreign territory claiming it historically belongs to them, propaganda using the latest technology, terrorizing neighbors, military at the center of society.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Old Zionism is good Zionism. Most of my life, Zionism was seen as good. After the atrocities of wwii, it was quite reasonable to support a Jewish state where they could defend themselves. For the next half century as various surrounding countries vowed to destroy them and kill them all, Zionism as the goal of a Jewish homeland seemed like a good thing.

But now Zionism is the aggressor, rather than defender, the perpetrator rather than victim. They have their own country to defend themselves and it’s mostly accepted by their neighbors but wtf are they doing to Palestinians? How can they not look back on their own history to wwii and not be horrified by what they’ve become?

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today -1 points 5 days ago

Law is a social construct

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The people deciding what gets banned are zionists.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social -5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Basically, because NATO and Russia are in an economic stand-off where Iran is the key, and Israel is really the only plausible excuse for the US to invade Iran

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[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They have the same intent, but there's no proof that there is a plan to really actively murder all Palestinians. Also, people in Gaza now have about as much food to eat as inmates of Nazi concentration camps had in the first half of 1940's, but the rest of the horrible torture is not being done.

So, basically, people are okay with what the Nazis did between 1932 and 1941. But from 1941 onwards, Nazis went over some line that is not acceptable.

In my opinion, Nazis were horribly evil already in 1932 and what they did back then was already absolutely condemnable, but it seems that most people in our society don't share my view on this. You are allowed to commit a genocide using starvation and bullets, like the Nazis did until 1941, but when you start using actual gas chambers, it becomes a no-no.

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[–] limer@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

All the western countries done their own genocides within recent history, and have run out of victims. But the basic colonial mindset never went away.

It must be like a breath of fresh air that, yet again, brave Europeans have a frontier to conquer and savages to tame.

That, and most leaders are being actively blackmailed by the Israeli intelligence services; and also, a good chunk of their population thinks Israel is required for their Sky God to kill most of the people on earth and reap their souls in judgment day.

Western democracies have done a lot of progress the last generations, but scratch at the surface and one will find a medieval mindset. Scratch at that and one finds a stone age mindset.

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