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Looks like top management has completely given up on gaming following the disastrous acquisitions of Activision and Zenimax.

They've killed their first party studios, their hardware and now their last remaining thing which was the game pass.

Always remember, Fitgirl is free.

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[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 54 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Game Pass was always doomed from the start. It's not a Netflix situation where there's functionally infinite content out there that would otherwise be more difficult/expensive to procure, so the price point of a subscription was never going to work long term. Why would you pay $30/month to play AAA releases when there's only ever 4-6 AAA releases in a given year, and you probably only care about maybe 2 of them at $60 a piece? Why would you pay $30/month to rent indy games that cost $20 to own forever? You'd be better off taking that $30/month and throwing it into a savings account to pay for future games and pocketing whatever you don't spend every few months.

Phil Spencer is a prime example of failsons never facing consequences for their ineptitude even when they're objectively fucking over their fellow capitalists.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 30 points 3 weeks ago

Phil Spencer did literally nothing good for Xbox it's crazy. The 80 billion deal for Activision and 20 billion for Bethesda is crazy.

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Gamefly makes it work with plans going from $9-$23 per month, but all of their tiers have more games than MS Game Pass does and has them available for all consoles + PC, so it's a much better value proposition if you're the kind of person who wants to play a different game every week or so. The only hangup is dealing with sending DVDs through the mail, but for a huge section of the market that's still faster than downloading.

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[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 47 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This was always inevitable. The slow, agonizing death of the console has been obvious since the seventh generation, as has the methods by which that death would come: the PC and the necessity of subscriptions.

Consoles are now just a cost-cut PC and they're necessarily going to be a worse deal than a PC because they're unable to perform basic general-purpose computing tasks.

One-time sales simply aren't good enough to create the infinite growth capitalists desire, and the profit margins and timeframes of (especially AAA) game development are simply too scary for capitalists to want to pony up the cash. We're going to continue seeing this sort of retraction happen across the entire entertainment industry and in other industries in coming years.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Execs forcing MTX and Subscriptions into AAA titles is the death of AAA Gaming. Most AAA are shit nowadays anyways.

[–] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely. Monetization has always been the problem. The tendency of the rate of profit to fall necessitates worse and worse monetization schemes.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's a mirror to the death of the weekend car. Something purpose built for cruising or offroading. Everything in every aspect of daily life is becoming general purpose.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not smart enough to know this, but it seems like consoles would be really useful if they were more self-contained? Like games come in cartridges and sometimes those cartridges have additional hardware so the game runs smoother with better graphics than it would on PC. I suspect this is too costly, which is why consoles have moved away from the cartridge.

One of the advantages of the Super NES, for example, was you just plugged games in and there were zero load times. I know the N64 and various Gameboy games had additional hardware built into some cartridges to do things the console wouldn't normally be able to do.

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[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 31 points 3 weeks ago

On the same treadmill as every other media subscription service. The market demands growth which is fine when you're growing your subscriber base. When you've reached subscriber saturation, the only thing you can do is start raising the price. This was always the end-state for Game Pass.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago

took long enough

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Entertainment companies keep trying to pull shit at exactly the moment consumers are looking for where to cut expenses.

This is the sort of environment where successful consumer boycotts can just spring up organically because hey, we could be spending that money better elsewhere

[–] princeofsin@hexbear.net 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You can't comeback from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

And they never did. Get fucked zionist cucks

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

lol this video is so funny.

"Games" should be the word that gets over said in these launches.

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[–] TheVelvetGentleman@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Fitgirl is not Empress. I got confused. Please don't blame me for my poor neurology.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Fitgirl is a chud who spreads transphobic screeds in her readmes

Are you sure? I've seen this from empress but not fitgirl. Searching just brings up old drama threads between the two of them with empress being transphobic.

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

When it went up from $15 to $20 I stopped paying automatically, figured I'd just sub some months. Like when Blue Prince came out, I paid for a month.

Now it's doubled? I'll never re-up. I have a Series X — I'll never buy a game new for Xbox at this point.

When my last computers went out, I replaced them with Macs. They doubled the price of Microsoft 365 so I dropped that too. iWork is fine (and there's LibreOffice for non-Mac users (and for us as well) and that looks like it's gotten better than last time I tried it). For free, I'm not complaining. If I were, I'd have decent options.

I feel like Microsoft is taking a nose-dive in more than just gaming.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 23 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

When my last computers went out, I replaced them with Macs.

yikes

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Apparently putting all your resources in the copilot basket doesn't work out well for other products.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

In the future, they'll have a billion instances of copilot subscribed to game pass at $100/month. The copilot instances will do mundane office tasks to make the money needed to subscribe. It's foolproof!

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[–] pierre_delecto@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

My work computer has a copilot button on the keyboard...aging about as well as the Rdio button on my Roku remote.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago

this is all because of wokeness

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

$29.99/month

speed-dont-laugh

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They saw the Switch 2 post record sales and decided people are willing to pay more. What they've failed to understand about that is that Switch 2 does for Switch games what PS2 did for PS1 games, it makes them better, and it works better. So even with underwhelming launch titles and increased price of games people still saw the value in getting it if they currently play their Switch, which they do.

The success of the Switch 2 is going to cause other very poor decisions from execs that don't realise why.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Switch 2 is still a very bad deal imo. I'm just waiting for the Switch Emulator scene to start again so I can play like the 2 Nintendo games I want to play.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That it might be but it's the fastest selling nintendo console of all time data-laughing what-the-hell

[–] Blep@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean the last step is to try to rentseek from steam

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is the main reason Valve invested so heavily in Proton (it was an act of self-preservation, not of kindness). They could smell that coming from miles away the moment Microsoft integrated their own app store into Windows.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Any port in a storm. I'm just glad there a slush fund for open source that isn't just Red Hat/IBM

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 17 points 3 weeks ago

They went all in on LLMs.

lmao

[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Good god Xbox dropped the damn ball. I remember the launch presentation for the Xbox One. It was coming in with HEAT. Coming off the xbox 360 (which had some issues, but was up against the ps3 so it did well), everyone was excited for the next Microsoft machine. But then, that E3 presentation would be a sign of were Xbox would be going for the next decade. They were going for a home multimedia system, but they focused far too much on TV and streaming. OOO hdmi passthrough, OOO kinect, but where are the games? Well, they are region locked, have always on DRM, and are being locked from resale. And of course, Xbox live now comes with games, moving to a subscription model entirely. Since then, the Xbox series X and S have less features, less games, and less love from fans.

[–] neo@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

I'm doing my part by not buying any games touched by any of the studios acquired by Microsoft, and certainly not a locked down gaming console where it's a general purpose PC that... only plays video games? And doesn't let you use it in any other way for any other purpose? Lol. Lmao, even.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't understand how these corporate suits do this. Surely they would need to consult actual market surveys and have a good grasp on the economy and amount of disposable income the average person has before setting up a system like this, even if they have no idea what a video game even is, and still think they are all just mario on the NES because that was the last time they played a game, you'd think they'd still try to understand basic concepts in the market, like "produce a product worth paying for." and not "offer huge amounts of slop no one wants to touch for way too much money."

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They don't have material analysis and the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism is why. Their whole worldview is based on contradictions within capitalism remaining unexplainable, so they just throw shit at the wall to see what sticks. Except when they do this, it messes up their chances at successful throws later on. It essentially becomes gambling. Just games of pure chance where they place their bets and hope to win big.

Anything like labor power affecting production costs, usefulness of the product, etc. isn't even in their vocabulary.

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[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok be real with me: Since Microsoft owns Bethesda's parent company, could Fallout 5 be in danger? They announced its development recently but not until TE6 is out, so we're looking at 2030 at the absolute earliest.

I NEED MY SLOP

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It’s probably going to be a reeking pile of shit anyways, look at starfield and fallout 76

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's highly possible. I haven't played either (on purpose) but I heard that Starfield was very underwhelming, and Fallout 76 is simply not a Fallout game IMO. It's just PvP slop with microtransactions.

But you know what they say: Wish in one hand, mod in the other ...

[–] SnuggleButt@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m so disappointed about starfield. I didn’t play it but I watched a bunch of streams on release (cohhcarnage lauding the game while spending 80% of it in the inventory and then backpedaling while kiting an early game enemy for, I shit you not, 90 seconds really solidified the garbage gameplay). The consensus and my personal perception was that it completely lacked any and all soul. For a Bethesda game that is a low point in their dev history. Coming off the back of a morrowind playthrough a year before that game released the contrast showed one of the greatest falls I’ve ever seen in gaming. The entire reason why Bethesda games are good, the core factor, is that soul and charm. Absolute masterclass in releasing a game that feels like an alcohol wipe. I don’t have any hope for their future releases unfortunately

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[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

I just play games I don’t have to fix to enjoy lol

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly hoping Xbox gets bought by Valve and we get SteamBox

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[–] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Thank god let the slop machine burn down

[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

This is essentially the Playstation Plus model.

[–] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gotta have to go against the grain here and say that people will happily keep paying $30 a month for access to hundreds of games, especially when those games start costing $80 to buy.

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[–] Enjoyer_of_Games@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

eh it's gonna be another 15 years until AoE5 anyways let em cook

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

$30 a month? lmao.

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