Thankfully no guns were hurt during the incident.
-Republicans probably
Thankfully no guns were hurt during the incident.
-Republicans probably
The problem is there wasn't a nearby cop that could have shot everyone, that would have sold the problem.
This is so American. From the availability of firearms, to their immediate use upon a perceived threat, to the economic situation that would have him evicted, to the insane sentence of 100 years for a 66 year old who needs an oxygen tank. Just sad all around.
I don't think 100 years is insane, it's life without parol without actually saying it. He shot two people tried to shoot another and actually killed the youngest.
Other countries don't follow the punitive approach to criminal law, but rather a reformative. With the facts we are presented with it actually seems more like a failure of society instead of just one man. The sentence is absolutely ridiculous.
There are cases to reform somebody, and I fully agree that we must try that. In some cases. Which this is absolutely not.
It’s okay, just now on the news I saw that a man successfully shot and killed his 21 year old son, so the universe is now balanced.
clearly this 8 year old and that 21 year old should have been packing
Obviously. The solution is always more guns.
the only thing that can stop a bad senior with a gun is a good toddler with a gun
Not really. Going to need a 8yo girl to shoot a boomer now
Will two 5 y.o. that shot their grandmothers by accident do?
Why didn't the 8 year old have a gun to defend herself with? That's the only thing that could have saved her life!
So this article makes it seem like he's got dementia and was under the spell of a delusion when shooting his partner & daughter. But it's written so vaguely that it's hard to know for sure. So I found another article that seems to be much more clear about what happened:
TL;DR: 66-year-old man is in rough shape; has Hepatitis B, Emphysema, and COPD, and needs an oxygen tank. His partner (a much younger woman), their daughter together (8 years old), and his son from a previous marriage (18) all came to his house. The article doesn't say what happened in the conversation, but he apparently became enraged thinking they were trying to get him out of the house. My guess is that they were trying to get him to go into a care facility due to his many, many ailments.
Dude saw red, grabbed a gun, and started blasting. Shot his partner, then tried shooting his son, missed, and hit his 8-year-old daughter in the back as she was running away from him.
So it sounds much less like dementia (though that could still very well be a factor), and more like a miserable piece of shit reaching for a gun first to solve all of his problems.
Paradoxically he ended up in a sort of care facility. Some "care" but maybe not the care he needed
Honestly, the facto that he could have had dementia and still could access a gun is not really the better option, is it?
It can be both, though. He could be a sack of shit who is now going through dementia.
Fuck guns
Fuck religion, alcohol, politics, financial inequality, unaffordable health care and brain dead sports fans.
Yes, but fuck guns extra hard.
Seems kinda dangerous.
wtaf?
Valez believed that two women had come to the house to evict him and he lost his temper
so… how did that relate to his partner and son?
so confused
daughter in law and his partner were the two women maybe?
article is kinda bad
yet another shining example of the kind of quality republican needed to prove the value of the second amendment
Boomers don't need guns.
Dementia + lethal weapons. Terrible combination.
Pretty much no one in rich countries need guns these days, no matter the generation.
It's really depressing. Yesterday I packed out an order for a hidden magnetic gun holder.
Like great. That is wonderful. Someone out there, possibly a paranoid deranged asshole, wants to keep a presumably loaded gun under their bedside table or desk...
I am confused by the way this is reported. Did he mistake his son and his ex-partner to be officers who had come to evict him and shoot at them? Or did he hold them responsible for his looming eviction?
Anyway, US really need better gun control. Looks like any nutjob can get a gun there. It is tragic to see a young life ending this way.
Also the fact a mentally healthy person can snap in the heat of the moment.
If there's a gun nearby that can be all it takes.
A quote from the judge according to the article:
"I just can't believe being evicted would justify picking up a handgun in that small of a space with children present"
What I find particularly concerning about this is that this implies that being evicted would justify picking up a handgun provided you're not in an enclosed space with children present. Why in the actual fuck would there be any further qualification after "I just can't believe being evicted would justify picking up a handgun". Full stop. You're being evicted. You fucked up. Firearms don't belong in that conversation at all with the only possible exception I can think of being if you are being directly and illegally threatened with a firearm.
Ugh.
They were just listing all of the reasons why it was a bad idea, not qualifying each reason as "okay if the other ones didn't occur".
I can fully see your inference, but don't believe that the judge meant it that way. This was more lamenting the senselessness of the entire situation.
Another way to look it at is that there are situations in which picking up a handgun in a small space with children present is justified; however, being evicted is not one of them.
Let's be real, he intended to shoot everyone. He's dodging his intent to murder a child before being put in with inmates who will know that.
Good thing there are guns everywhere so a momentary burst of anger turns into a permanent tragedy.
This is what libertarian thought does to a person. People lose all sense of perspective.
Valez believed that two women had come to the house to evict him
Did 2 women come to the house? Was he just hallucinating? Was he on drugs? The story is not very clear.
Out shitty society created this situation. People need a secure place to live, and we need proper social securities in place.
And guns need to be regulated.
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