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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What matters isn't whether you think that AI can replace you. What matters is whether the CEO thinks that AI can replace you.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Its sort of funny that the IT industry is investing their whole effort into a program that will... ...destroy the IT industry ?

[–] devAlot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tbf, it's not really the IT grunts pouring their heart and soul into this trend. It's more the top-level execs seeing more $$ in their pockets at EOQ/EOY bonus time by hiring fewer 6-figure employees and relying more on ~~AI~~ hallucinogenic LLMs, while the grunts ~~dabble with it~~ fight with the stupid piece of shit just so they can ~~say "Yeah sure I used X AI program to help speed this up"~~ appease these idiots who believe it's their saving grace.

Source: Am dev/grunt dealing with said idiots. Opinion likely biased, take with grain of salt.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, and don't forget the local politicians handing out tax incentives and sweetheart deals to data centers so we can all chip in together to help the tech bros delete our jobs.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago

Maybe…? This just seems like a massive over-correction here, and an over-correction to something other than the existence of LLMs at that. They shovelled so many people into IT via boot camps to correct the perceived overvaluation of software professionals that now there’s nothing to be seen for all that investment, and the market has snapped back. Actual experienced engineers became even more desirable a resource due to overseeing all the boot camp kids, and now we’re less than months away from a massive mess of instant legacy code everywhere due to CTOs who saw $s in their eyes from the low low cost of Claude versus a junior.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Of course it is. Your employer will replace you with an immigrant or AI as soon as they can, that's how capitalism works.

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I fully believe they will try and replace us as soon as they can. But as a software engineer, companies are fooling themselves if they think AI can replace good engineers. I work with some extremely talented engineers, and they would laugh at me if I said AI is going to replace them. I think people spend too much time on tech twitter listening to vibe coders. The ceiling for how complex of a project a human can handle compared to AI is at least 10000x higher with a human.

But I agree if they could replace us they would. And that’s why we band together with the people who are being replaced, because it’s bad for humanity as a whole.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 167 points 3 days ago (10 children)
[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
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[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (7 children)

While the idea behind AI was that it would automate manual tasks and help workers focus on more value-added activities, some workers fear it will outright replace them — and that’s already happening

Yeah, it already happened to the journalist that would have written this article. I find it a bit funny that the picture caption is just the prompt they used to generate it

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[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 187 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (27 children)

The first sentence of the article shows the problem.

For years, we heard about the tech talent shortage — that there were a glut of jobs and not enough bodies to fill them.

I worked in tech for a long time, at a bunch of different companies, and I never once worked anywhere that there was a glut of jobs and “not enough bodies” to fill them.

The problem wasn’t ever “bodies,” which people have always misunderstood. It’s qualified workers.

The people going into these careers includes a large number of people who want the money but aren’t qualified do what we’re looking for.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 125 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (34 children)

Its more than that; companies also continuously propagate the message of "shortage of workers" while continuing to raise the requirements for entry level positions more and more. It reaches a point where "entry level" is not attainable for most fresh grads to get experience, and keeps their starting wages (and continuing wages) very well depressed due to the high supply.

Its a very targeted campaign to make sure educated workers are oversupplied, tied down with student debt, and don't get too many ideas of independence in their heads.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Yeah you can't JUST do CS anymore. Why would you hire a CS grad to do your project when you have to plan it to the end and provide rigid specifications to follow? Instead you can hire an engineer or someone from stat or data analytics that ALSO comes with a boatload of programming (and often software architecting) expertise?

It only makes sense to hire someone with a CS specialty if the problem your company solves specifically calls for that specialty. That's is getting increasingly rare in the age of SaaS, containerization, IaaS, etc.

[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Recent data analytics masters degree grad trying to do a career pivot. After almost a year, man does it seem like 2 years ago me made a dumb ass choice. And I'm not even tryna for 6 figures or anything. I'd be happy with 60-70 lol

Edit to add trying to pivot into some kinda data analytics. Not away from

[–] FEIN@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just curious, what do you want to pivot into?

[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm coming from healthcare and trying to get into some form of data analyst type position. Realize my comment wasn't clear which way I was trying to pivot

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Maybe if people hadn't pushed everyone in the entire fucking world into my field we wouldn't have this problem

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[–] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 59 points 3 days ago (11 children)

It’s not just grads. I have 1 open senior position, 100 applicants. A good 10% of them with 15+ years of experience have had no job in the last year, or have things like “Amazon fulfillment center” as their most recent job. Shits rough if you find yourself laid off or if the company you’re working for went out of business.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

On the flipside, we had a senior position open for something like 2 years before we finally got someone we're happy with. We fired two before we found someone would would actually do work and not cuss out our external partners.

We're still having trouble hiring mid-levels. Most of the candidates are surprised when we ask them questions about React when the job position clearly states it's for React, and they're also surprised when we ask them to write a few lines of code in an interview (nothing crazy, should take a competent dev 5-10 min, and a nervous one 15, so we allocate 20 min). I don't think our expectations are unreasonable, here's how we delineate between tiers:

  • junior - needs help from a mentor to deliver feature work
  • mid-level - needs direction on larger features, but can deliver independently
  • senior - manages larger features, consults w/ architect on high-level design considerations

But all the senior applicants are mid-level at best, mid-level applicants are recent college grads, and junior applicants just finished a coding bootcamp and think they're hot stuff because they built a rails app by following step-by-step instructions.

We're not a flashy tech company, we manufacture niche products for a niche field, and our software does simulations and reports. It's a complicated product, and we're totally willing to train people, we just want people who can demonstrate that they can ask proper questions and translate that into easy to understand code. The interview questions aren't hard, but they are intentionally incomplete because we're not testing coding ability but instead the ability to recognize vagueness and ask clarifying questions (i.e. ask before you assume).

We're not anyone's top pick, but we do have a lot of interesting problems to solve and people tend to really like it here. So the candidates we tend to get are desperate people who aren't getting bites at the flashier companies, which often means they're not all that competent. During COVID, we'd get maybe 5 applicants for a role after it has been open for a month, and now we're getting 200-300 in the first few days of the position being open. A lot of those applicants are incompetent and I'm surprised they were offered their previous role, but there are some diamonds in the rough.

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[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 78 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Two decades of “just learn to code bro”, will do that to a profession.

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