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[-] li10@feddit.uk 139 points 8 months ago

As a cyclist, two people cycling side by side while other vehicles are waiting to pass is a bit of a dick move tbh.

Not illegal, and nothing compared to the shit that drivers do to cyclists, but still a bit of a dick move.

[-] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cycling two abreast is better for the driver, since they can overtake much quicker.

[-] li10@feddit.uk 25 points 8 months ago

That image is quite a niche scenario and doesn’t represent the situation in the original image.

Obviously it’s different with a group of eight compared to just two people…

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

niche scenario

Never been to a country where road cycling is massive then? Try living in anyplace that has Alps in it lol

[-] li10@feddit.uk 22 points 8 months ago

You’re right. I live in a city and have never seen more than four people cycling together.

It’s almost like cycling in the alps is a niche situation, and cycling in cities happens much more frequently 🤔

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[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Great image, but you see people really don't want to use their steering wheels. And if possible they'd like pedestrian crossings removed as well. In ideal world there would be a race track from their home to exactly where they need to go and everyone else in traffic is a dick. Including other car drivers. Learning traffic laws and rules is too much of an effort anyway.

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[-] AgileLizard@lemmy.ml 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I disagree since overtaking a cyclist in the same lane is unsafe anyway. In the city I always cycle in the middle of the lane because it prevents unsafe takeovers and dooring.

[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

So it's a bit of a conundrum. Because there are pros and cons in riding abreast.

On one hand, cyclists are more compact and more visible. On the other filling whole lane would mean drivers behind them would have to time their overtaking. However, car drivers almost never leave enough space when overtaking cyclists and 100% never think about wind that might push them or that cyclist might need more space to avoid potholes and stuff. So being a dick driver is not exclusive to cyclists.

Traffic law, at least where I live, states when overtaking cyclists driver must leave enough space between him and the cyclist so as to not inconvenience cyclist. Which is vague and not helping one bit. However I think it's far better to be forced to slow down and time overtaking than not slowing down and flying next to a single lane of cyclists. Because if and when there's a car coming from opposite direction, car driver won't care or look twice to move closer to the edge of the road and push others out.

[-] onion@feddit.de 10 points 8 months ago

Yes illegal, depending on the country.

[-] yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

Where do you see another vehicle "waiting to pass"? There's absolutely nothing in this picture telling you how much traffic there is, how wide the road is, etc. Nothing.

What can be seen in the picture, however, is a car that, no matter the speed, is tailgating way too close. Which is a misdemeanor in some countries.

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[-] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago

Great image, however slightly wrong. In some countries car pictured should be a huge fucking truck which people use to go and buy Starbucks because of deadly combination of ego issues and laziness.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago
[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

Canada is rapidly mirroring America with car centric design and "you're only a man if you own a truck" mentality.

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[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago

I wish the diagram would have put little fart clouds labeled 'Methane' behind the bicyclists.

What I'm trying to say is that I crop dust a lot when I bike.

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Fun fact, humans actually produce only trace amounts on methane in our farts because we're not ruminants. Most of our farts are nitrogen swallowed from the air and CO2 produced by gut bacteria. The bad smelling chemicals are in even lower concentrations and barely make up a rounding error by volume, we simply evolved to be really sensitive to them because it's beneficial to our survival to avoid poop.

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[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 30 points 8 months ago

You left out the part where the ones on the bikes are going the fraction of the speed

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[-] caesaravgvstvs@feddit.de 26 points 8 months ago

So people saying the bikes side by side are a dick move are implying that you have more right to the road because you're driving a car?

Generally speaking, to do an overtake, a car needs to leave the lane completely, so it doesn't matter whether it's one or two bikes.

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago

You are assuming drivers respect the safety distance from a lone biker...

[-] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 10 points 8 months ago

It does matter. It's safer for everyone if cyclists travel side by side in one lane because then the car driver has to spend less time in the oncoming lane to complete the overtake. A long string of bikes takes more time to safely pass.

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[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Why state a car's length in millimeters? Why state any length over a meter in millimeters?

Why doesn't the world use the decimeter? I don't think I've ever seen it used anywhere.

[-] cron@feddit.de 45 points 8 months ago

Using millimeters is pretty common in engineering.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

How I wish I lived in a part lf the world built and designed for bycicles or proper public transit.

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[-] drkt@feddit.dk 18 points 8 months ago

Update the picture to include the particulate pollution from the tires and you got a solid piece

[-] M137@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago

Missed the part where the people in the car are obese.

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[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

It also works fine with just one person in the car.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Yeah, that's the most unrealistic part of that. Almost every car here has only one person in it.

[-] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

I love this sub so much. It's as if confidently incorrect had a weird little clone with just the right mix of sass, poorly thought out arguments, and environmental awareness to vex both cyclists and drivers in equal amounts.

[-] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 months ago

Oh gosh, metric that is too confusing. Can you convert it into units we can all understand like yards, feet, inches

/s

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