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Five hours after Charlie Kirk was shot this week, an Atlanta man got a phone call from an Illinois police officer asking about a photo he shared with a couple of close friends on a private Discord chat. The Atlanta man, who asked not to be identified, says the post was merely a confirmation that he had purchased the same T-shirt that the accused killer wore (from an Illinois-based online shop).

Social media companies are generally forbidden by law from divulging users’ private communications to the government without a traditional legal process (e.g., court order). But there’s an exception: in perceived emergencies, social media platforms can proactively and “voluntarily” hand over private messages in response to what’s called an “emergency disclosure request” (EDR).

Discord, I am told, did not respond to any EDR here; but when I asked them directly if they’d provided law enforcement with information to traditional legal process, they declined to respond on-record.

The FBI, or the intelligence community, evidently is monitoring Discord private messaging, even from people who have broken no law.

Full blown Orwellian world. Run for local government and stop this shit.

The largest populated areas are left leaning. If they ae controlled by democratic socialist, we can restrict this shit. Just by pure numbers.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 131 points 5 days ago (2 children)

not a single person gives a shit about charlie kirk; the whole crackdown is because politicians got a glimpse ofhow people will react when they die and they don't like it.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 52 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

They don't give a shit about that either. Trump has been trying to goat people into violence and he final got his wish (possibly by his own people). They are seizing on that. That is why he moved the national guard into memphis TN. He wants marshall law to hold power forever.

Edit: spelling

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Edit: spelling

Since we're making corrections, the word is "goad," not "goat." You try to "goad" people into behavior or choices they wouldn't normally make.

I try not to correct people much anymore if their message is still pretty obvious. I realized that offering too many corrections could cause people to post less, and I didn't want to be the cause of that. But the fact that you were already willing to edit goaded me into suggesting another correction.

[–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Also it's martial, not marshal, which is reasonably important as martial means pertaining to war, i.e. the army running things.

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[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A dead nazi is funny but at the end of the day they're just another dead nazi. Now when Hitler or Goebbels eats shit, that's a call for celebration.

[–] marcela@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 days ago

Todays news outlets if sent back to 1945: Underrated painter shot in the head by maniacal racist in Berlin. German outrage over frantic celebrations across Europe.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 days ago (8 children)

As a Turkish citizen, this gives me a sense of deja-vu. America is going through the same crackdowns on freedoms we experienced 25 years ago.

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[–] Kaliax@lemmy.world 39 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Snowden told us about these type of IC capabilities 12 years ago. We are cooked, y'all. Cooked.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I think you missed his conclusion.

We have tools that they can't penetrate. Privacy is a right. We're not cooked.

[–] Kaliax@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Lol, okay. As the vast majority of people have no clue and no interest in utilizing those tools. No interest in understanding threat vectors and cryptography. Cooked was a bit glibb, but the general "we", I do not see your optimism.

"Privacy is a right"... sure, so is healthcare and shelter... I am sure those policies are going global really soon.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As the vast majority of people have no clue and no interest in utilizing those tools.

I can't agree more. A few family members got really paranoid about their communications being monitored after Trump was elected again, so I offered to show them Signal or Element. Nah, no interest, "too hard". They still text even with the fucking US government itself warning people it's a very insecure medium.

I'm hoping that disinterest changes after a few people get locked up based on social media PMs, but don't have all that much hope.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

After the ICE raids started, I had a lot of people reach out to me. I've given trainings and lots of people switched to more secure systems.

There is an increased appetite in many oppressed groups for this. Don't try to force it. Be open and ready to train those who are eager.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You should create a website that explains how to do it.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

We're probably burnt at this point.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

so an illinois policeman called a guy in atlanta around a convo about a thing that happened in utah??? That policeman should be investigated.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 days ago

Makes sense if you don't think about it.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 56 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I saw this coming in 1999 when Scott McNealy inadvertantly spilled the beans on what his hateful industry was up to, and I have been extremely cautious about what I've been posting ever since. People have called me a paranoid crackpot for decades. I guess I hate to tell you I told you so...

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 5 days ago

De-google and open source has been my push this year. I'm not the most knowledgeable but I don't trust these companies.

I stopped using social media for almost 20 years. Only anonymous chats like this are used. Everything goes through a VPN and I always think that someone else is reading my stuff.

9-11 put us on this track with no restrictions.

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[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 44 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Using this to try to get more people off of discord.

Also not privacy related, but fuck substack

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ken Klippenstein has done amazing work and broke multiple stories.

This is not a smear against discord but a reveal of how the government is operating. If you don't think it is a privacy issue then you don't know what privacy is. Being a fan boy doesn't change what is happening.

Use discord all you want but your point is baseless about the story.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Apologies, I wasn't criticizing the article, or you for sharing it. It's a tricky sentence, especially if English isn't your first language - the "but" changes the subject. Article is definitely privacy related.

What isn't privacy related is my opinion about subtack. I don't mean to derail, so will let anyone reading this look up why ss sucks and make their own decision.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

Nothing to worry about. Schmuck Schumer has released a statement calling this situation "outrageous."

That'll fix'em.

[–] baxster@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Socialist Democrates whant's to destroy e2ee in sweden to both parties is anti encryption and pro mass surveillance. They are fighting against eachother of "who can introduce most surveillance and police state laws first"

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Liberals always try to prepare everything the Fascists need to do Fascism when the Fascists get elected (with help from the liberals)

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

That's what happens when the billionaires donate to all the political parties.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you let billionaires operate unchecked. Billionaires have the ability to operate like an independent nation of one, fucking up the works for real nations who are trying to take care of their people.

Billionaires should either be prohibited, or their expenditures should be tightly regulated. Make them get permission from a regulatory panel before they can spend their money.

"No, you already have a yacht, you don't need another. Just for being shitty enough to request a SECOND yacht, that money will be earmarked to build homeless shelters instead. Anything else?"

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Tjis is really the only thing anyone should pay attention to. Assassinating Peter Theil is a good first step to stopping this surveillance state. He wants to destroy humans to make way for transhumans. The war has begun.

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[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Exactly what Charlie Kirk would want! More censorship!

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm fortunately not American.

Guns should be regulated anyway.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 7 points 5 days ago (29 children)

How else can we stop people like Kirk and Trump?

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago (5 children)

You may as well assume that anything done on public social media is being read, searched and filtered in real-time by law enforcement and intelligence agencies.

Given the trajectory of this administration in persecuting people for their political affiliation, dumping commercial social media should be an imperative for everyone who isn't goose stepping.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 18 points 5 days ago (6 children)

That's been the case for 10 years. Unless it's e2ee, it's public record and can be tied to your real name with a minimal amount of paperwork.

Before I comment anything anywhere, I imagine it being read in a court room in a monotone voice. Bip bop dippity dop, the judge in this case is a swell person and I hope they have a lovely day!

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[–] viewports@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I really do worry tools like whatever the naperville pd using here are going result in a lot of damage and upturned lives once their use becomes more casual, like god knows what's going to happen with the president declaring random political views terrorism

no real court orders were involved, the article mentions a EDR wasn't invoked, no push back from discord over what sounds like some sort of dump or access to all images uploaded to the service

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