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Five hours after Charlie Kirk was shot this week, an Atlanta man got a phone call from an Illinois police officer asking about a photo he shared with a couple of close friends on a private Discord chat. The Atlanta man, who asked not to be identified, says the post was merely a confirmation that he had purchased the same T-shirt that the accused killer wore (from an Illinois-based online shop).

Social media companies are generally forbidden by law from divulging users’ private communications to the government without a traditional legal process (e.g., court order). But there’s an exception: in perceived emergencies, social media platforms can proactively and “voluntarily” hand over private messages in response to what’s called an “emergency disclosure request” (EDR).

Discord, I am told, did not respond to any EDR here; but when I asked them directly if they’d provided law enforcement with information to traditional legal process, they declined to respond on-record.

The FBI, or the intelligence community, evidently is monitoring Discord private messaging, even from people who have broken no law.

Full blown Orwellian world. Run for local government and stop this shit.

The largest populated areas are left leaning. If they ae controlled by democratic socialist, we can restrict this shit. Just by pure numbers.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

Nothing to worry about. Schmuck Schumer has released a statement calling this situation "outrageous."

That'll fix'em.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 19 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

As a Turkish citizen, this gives me a sense of deja-vu. America is going through the same crackdowns on freedoms we experienced 25 years ago.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

What happened as a result? Any tips?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

One thing that happened was that the Turkish leader Erdogan, visited Trump during his first administration, and after the meeting, Erdogan's security force attacked people who were legally protesting. A visiting head-of-state's private security came to America and beat-up legal protesters on American soil - and the Trump administration did nothing.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 12 hours ago

I don't think they're doing to well so it's not comforting

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

frequent political violence while the leaders scapegoat the entire Kurdish population.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Kurds have been Erdoğan'a greatest friends over the years. When Erdoğan called for a referendum in 2010 to abolish the independent judiciary (the infamous "yetmez ama evet" referandum), support from Kurdish nationalists was critical for Erdoğan's victory.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

so an illinois policeman called a guy in atlanta around a convo about a thing that happened in utah??? That policeman should be investigated.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago

Makes sense if you don't think about it.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Unfortunately fusion centers are a thing, they shouldn't be but they are.

[–] Kaliax@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Snowden told us about these type of IC capabilities 12 years ago. We are cooked, y'all. Cooked.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think you missed his conclusion.

We have tools that they can't penetrate. Privacy is a right. We're not cooked.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Now we are all doomed to android and iphone though. And all of the US carriers at least, are sucking the techbro surveillance cocks.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago

We have Grapheme and similar privacy focused open source options on Android

[–] Kaliax@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol, okay. As the vast majority of people have no clue and no interest in utilizing those tools. No interest in understanding threat vectors and cryptography. Cooked was a bit glibb, but the general "we", I do not see your optimism.

"Privacy is a right"... sure, so is healthcare and shelter... I am sure those policies are going global really soon.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

As the vast majority of people have no clue and no interest in utilizing those tools.

I can't agree more. A few family members got really paranoid about their communications being monitored after Trump was elected again, so I offered to show them Signal or Element. Nah, no interest, "too hard". They still text even with the fucking US government itself warning people it's a very insecure medium.

I'm hoping that disinterest changes after a few people get locked up based on social media PMs, but don't have all that much hope.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

After the ICE raids started, I had a lot of people reach out to me. I've given trainings and lots of people switched to more secure systems.

There is an increased appetite in many oppressed groups for this. Don't try to force it. Be open and ready to train those who are eager.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You should create a website that explains how to do it.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago

There are many, but nothing works better than in-person trainings

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[–] baxster@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Socialist Democrates whant's to destroy e2ee in sweden to both parties is anti encryption and pro mass surveillance. They are fighting against eachother of "who can introduce most surveillance and police state laws first"

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Liberals always try to prepare everything the Fascists need to do Fascism when the Fascists get elected (with help from the liberals)

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

That's what happens when the billionaires donate to all the political parties.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 3 hours ago

That's what happens when you let billionaires operate unchecked. Billionaires have the ability to operate like an independent nation of one, fucking up the works for real nations who are trying to take care of their people.

Billionaires should either be prohibited, or their expenditures should be tightly regulated. Make them get permission from a regulatory panel before they can spend their money.

"No, you already have a yacht, you don't need another. Just for being shitty enough to request a SECOND yacht, that money will be earmarked to build homeless shelters instead. Anything else?"

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago

Tjis is really the only thing anyone should pay attention to. Assassinating Peter Theil is a good first step to stopping this surveillance state. He wants to destroy humans to make way for transhumans. The war has begun.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

on the plus side, there's one less dead nazi in the world.

[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago (25 children)

I'm fortunately not American.

Guns should be regulated anyway.

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