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submitted 11 months ago by BuckRowdy@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.world

In the old days, official reddit announcement posts were a little different. Spuds, or another high-level admin would reply to a comment. Dozens of users would then reply with something like "When are you going to ban r/the_donald." The threads were massive and quickly became unwieldy, but they seemed organic.

Once reddit started hiring admins who don't seem to really know what reddit is, I started to notice a new trend. By now it's moved on from a trend to a template or better yet, an archetype.

Here is the archetypal pattern to an official Reddit announcement post in 2023:

  1. Reddit makes an announcement that is downvoted below 20%.
  2. The individual admin making the announcement (sometimes) litters the post with cringe gifs and meme-speak in a ham-fisted attempt to break the ice.
  3. This admin will only be authorized to speak on the topic of the post but will be asked about a range of items.
  4. The admin will answer 4-8 questions, mostly praise or comments with a neutral or positive tone.
  5. The admin replies will mostly be downvoted well into the double digits.
  6. After answering a few questions, often without ever replying to any follow-up questions, the admin vanishes as the thread is overwhelmed with criticism and ridicule.

In a short time, reddit will announce a new contributor program that will use some kind of crypto currency to allow users to pay other users for content. If recent patterns hold, and we all know they will, there will be aspects of this program that are surfaced in the comments of the announcement. These aspects will be alarming or concerning in some way and will highlight ways in which bad actors could exploit the feature. It will be clear that reddit had not considered these items raised by users and did not adequately interact with their userbase prior to the feature announcement to ensure the smoothest possible launch.

Reddit management doesn't seem to fuly understand that the freedom they grant their mods to build and manage their communities -- which is the entire reason that users come to the site so that they can be marketed to -- creates a much higher bar for communication and interaction around site architecture and feature changes with those mods / users. The pattern has been repeating for years: new features are rolled out half-baked, are not highly adopted. Admins are disincentivized to iterate on these features because of the low adoption rates. The feature is then abandoned or deprecated.

The last announcement post on r/modnews by the VP of community was the worst example since 2015 when Victoria was fired. Reddit, inc has done nothing to mitigate the anger, they haven't even apologized, without which no healing could ever happen.

And the next announcement post will be no different...

Standby.

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[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

You mean despite the decline in users, the rapid and ongoing devaluation of it's impending IPO, and the very vocal dissatisfaction of those who have for some reason remained loyal Reddit continues to fan the flames of the pestilent dumpster fire that it's become?

What a surprise! 😮

Reddit is dying. I give it another 6 months before it basically just becomes a shitty clone of Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, or some nauseating combination of the three that nobody asked for. Do yourself a favor and just let it die quietly so we can all move on.

[-] BuckRowdy@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I'm trying. It's hard when they keep falling face-first into the pavement on a weekly basis.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

You are seeing the death spiral in action. It doesn't matter what they try next, everything they do from this point onward will be wrong, and they will always double down on the wrong decision.

[-] flipthetube@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I wonder if the people who either linger out of hope or don’t realize what is going on have been around the internet long enough to have seen this happen before.

Many of us have seen this happen over and over and over. There’s nothing surprising about it. Yes, your go-to favorite website will fail you.

Decentralization helps, but I can’t imagine shit won’t hit the fan at some point in the future.

[-] Spacebar@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Dude, you two broke up two months ago. Why are you still thinking about them?

[-] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world 85 points 11 months ago

Presumably the three of us are subscribed to this community because we want to hear about and discuss reddit-centric topics. If you aren't, I suggest unsubscribing/filtering this community

[-] Alto@kbin.social 77 points 11 months ago

Dude comes into c/reddit and then bitches people are talking about reddit.

Wild

[-] Afrazzle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Reads more like a joke than bitching imo

[-] BuckRowdy@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

I'm still in the transition phase. I was pretty intertwined with the site so it takes a little time to unwind all of that.

[-] Foggyfroggy@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Also, I still visit oldreddit and use narwhal although nowhere near the same level of participation and engagement.

We broke up but we still see each other socially.

[-] Mereo@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

Well, it's a community about Reddit. It's a collective help group to move on from Reddit.

[-] A10@kerala.party 21 points 11 months ago

Why are you in c/reddit?

[-] MonsieurHedge@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

All of the good Google results point at Reddit. You know how hard it is to get anything done without Reddit comments?

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I for one love downfall drama

[-] penguin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago

I understand when most people have this thought on lemmy. But you know you're on a reddit community, right? This place is dedicated to talking about reddit.

[-] Frog-Brawler@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

I agree with the idea, but this is the /m/reddit, right?

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 11 months ago

You realize it’s possible to use multiple social media sites right?

[-] Litany@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

I say for anyone who is still frequently using Reddit at this point, let's post friendly replies to try and lure responses from the admins on these threads, then after they respond, change your question to something that makes their response look like something an asshole would say.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

~~Excellent work with these community updates and keeping us informed! Would you say the recent communication has been an exceptional case, or is it the new norm to engage communities transparently? I moderate a few communities on Discord, and I would love to bring them back to Reddit.~~

Hi, I was a moderator of the former r/incels subreddit. Without wives and girlfriends, we have a lot of money to spend on subscriptions and Reddit NFTs. Can you unban our community?

u/Hypothetical_Admin | +357
We are always willing to work with communities and moderators, and we would be happy to welcome you all back to Reddit.

this post was submitted on 01 Aug 2023
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