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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Calling a single policy Maoist because it was implemented by the Maoist regime is the same as calling the concept of socialised healthcare a Nazi policy because it was implemented by the Nazi regime.

I neither agree nor disagree with this policy on the basis that I don't know enough about the logistics and implementation to give an informed opinion, but to refer to it as Maoist is glib and incorrect as Malaysia, Zambia and Nigeria already have agricultural national service and, although Malaysia is a communist country, none of them are aligned with the CCP or the Maoist Revolutionary movement.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Its basically a parody of how every right leaning idiot calls boring right leaning centrists like Democrats "Extreme Left Communism".

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

Yes, it's a funny tweet, not a political science essay. It's OK.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 4 points 8 hours ago

The nazis did not implement national Healthcare. That was something done by Bismarck. And Bismarck was no bleeding heart liberal.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

One valid ciriticism of this is that in the US a lot of farms are owned by private businesses.
Imagine Amazon needs more workers after a labor strike and government drafts you to work there.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

So... Slavery with more steps?

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 16 points 12 hours ago

Slavery, but with overweight incompetent people.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We should use the budget we use to put people through the army to instead have them work on public works projects. Maybe it can just be part of being in the army. Not just farm work but construction work and especially maintenance work.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The government can hire people without making them indentured slaves or trained killers. Well, at least it used to be able to do that

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but this ensures young rich people have to work an actual job at least once in their lives too.

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[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 8 hours ago
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

American citizens can't afford to live on farm wages.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 92 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

DEAL, however as these farms are worked by the public they should become owned by the public. And the harvest be distributed at-cost to the public.

[–] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

It’s just another example of how great public works programs were. If the workers were housed/fed/paid decent wages, I think people would sign up in droves to travel around and do work that improves their country all the while learning useful trades/skills. And something like publicly owned farms would probably pay for themselves.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 21 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

While we're at it, nationalize ~~Monsanto~~ fuckin Bayre I guess. Either that or stop letting them fucking copyright seeds.

[–] porksnort@slrpnk.net 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Monsanto has not existed as a brand since 2018. The name of the new baddie is Bayer, who acquired them and got rid of thae name. Same shitty playbook, but let’s focus our anger on things that exist.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, haven't kept up with the ever-shifting hydra of corporations well enough I guess 🤷‍♀️.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 hours ago

Hydra is right. They’re owned by the same group of entities who all have cross-holdings in each other making them essentially one giant megacorp.

https://www.investing.com/equities/bayer-ag-ownership

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[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago (11 children)

I wonder how many rich kids will develop bone spurs?

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 80 points 19 hours ago (14 children)

Or, and hear me out here: We could pay people a competitive wage for their labor.

I understand the need for agricultural subsidies. The government inserts itself into the normal supply/demand process to protect the general public against a famine.

What I don't understand is why those subsidies don't seem to be flowing past the greedy hands of corporate farmers and into the pockets of farm laborers.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (4 children)

Honestly I'm all for it. It gives you some understanding how food is produced, gives you some contact with nature, maybe some physical exercise, some respect for farm workers, and such.

edit: after thinking about it, i'm NOT all for it. i'm against all forms of forced labor.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago

as long as the farms are publicly owned and there's no profit interest.

even then, it's basically slavery, or a framework for it. it'll quickly slide into "undesirables" being made to work there. then conditions will go to hell because who cares about those people, I want my produce.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 13 hours ago

while corporations get free labor win win for them!

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And a little bit of glyphosate in the lungs.

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[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Definitely better than military service

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 179 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

100% guarantee that those who are proposing this will have some sort of exemptions for themselves and their oligarch friends.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

Age exemption was right there in the second sentence (18-30).

Guarantee these bastards are all older than that.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 102 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

This is definitely proposed by someone who runs a farm and wants free labor.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I totally would but I dont want to take a job away from those hardworking American farmers. They've fought too hard to win them back and would just be a shame to take them all away again.

[–] jve@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago

Make America Great Leap Forward Again

[–] GoddessGundy@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (9 children)

Great. We all say this about the service industry, too. So since farming is your life blood you think its hard and people need to understand.

By that logic, everyone should be drafted for many different vocations to gain perspective on other people's careers.

Edit: Also it seems she's implying that someone else will pay the wages if she wants a draft. She wouldn't have to rely on imported employees if she payed a living wage to begin with.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 29 points 16 hours ago (7 children)

Do serious farmers even want inexperienced randos picking their precious harvest though? I guess it might depend on the crop, but a lot of vegetables and fruits need the proper handling, or they'll be ruined or at least second-rate.

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