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They want so bad to pin this on trans people

Edit: Axios just published this info. Seems like there’s some truth to it https://archive.is/20250913234558/https://www.axios.com/2025/09/13/kirk-suspect-transgender-roommate

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[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 86 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://xcancel.com/bearsaremean/status/1966955517512729061

He didn't even use it to look female, read his caption, he's making fun of the filter for thinking hes a girl because of his hoodie.

There is nothing on his account to suggest he's trans https://www.tiktok.com/@c00kies_n_cream/video/7180861045320240426

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 81 points 6 days ago (1 children)

A lie travels halfway around the world before the truth even puts on its boots

[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 75 points 6 days ago (1 children)

important to remember this is because people want to believe these lies: see https://redsails.org/false-witnesses/ and https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

both essays are incredible and i always highly reccomend reading both, but i will put a couple of relevant parts below.

from false witnesses:

But it is the case. Let’s go through that list again. The following are all true of the people spreading the Procter & Gamble rumor:

>They didn’t really believe it themselves.

They were passing it along with the intent of misinforming others. Deliberately. >They did not respect, or care about, the actual facts of the matter, except to the extent that they viewed such facts with hostility. >Being told that the Bad Thing they were purportedly upset about wasn’t real only made them more upset. Proof that the 23rd largest corporation in America was not in league with the Devil made them defensive and very, very angry.

...

But in truth they were neither innocent nor dupes. The category of innocent dupe does not apply here. No one could be honestly misled by such a story. The only way to have been misled by it is dishonestly — which is to say deliberately, willingly and willfully. They are claiming to believe a foolish thing, but they are not guilty of foolishness. They are guilty of malice.

from masses elites and rebels:

In short: Westerners aren’t helpless innocents whose minds are injected with atrocity propaganda, science fiction-style; they’re generally smug bourgeois proletarians who intelligently seek out as much racist propaganda as they can get their hands on. This is because it fundamentally makes them feel better about who they are and how they live. The psychic and material costs are rationally worth the benefits. As for those anti-imperialists who don’t participate in this festival of xenophobia — and here I include myself — we have our own elitist consolation: we accept the tragedy of masses of gullible sheeple falling for cunning propaganda because having overcome it flatters our own intelligence. The more we condemn society’s stupidity, the smarter we feel in comparison.

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 81 points 6 days ago (2 children)

0 indication at all that the roommate is even trans. 0 indication that they're in a relationship.

https://theonion.com/it-is-journalism-s-sacred-duty-to-endanger-the-lives-of-1850126997/

[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 53 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it being pushed so desperately by NY Post/Fox News with such shit evidence makes me even more convinced the shooter is a groyper (or at the very least a nihilistic terminally online gamer which... isnt all that different from a groyper tbh)

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 42 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I was very confident he's a groyper yesterday but at this point I think this guy might just be trolling to get called as many contradictory ideologies as possible. AP will be saying monarchist, NYT maoist, HackerNews Luigiist, Breitbart Black nationalist, Haaretz Kahanist, RT Azov, The Guardian Blairite, El Pais TERF, PinkNews truscum, and the Miami Herald will say he admires Castro.

[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 36 points 6 days ago

so still a right winger, essentially lol

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[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 80 points 6 days ago (2 children)

https://xcancel.com/AriDrennen/status/1966933342550716428

The "evidence" the tabloid media has of the claim that the alleged shooter's alleged roommate is allegedly transgender is two-year-old TikTok video where the roommate used a filter to look like a female anime character. Trash media is trash.

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 77 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Holy shit this is absurdly flimsy. So this guy has:

  • No posts about painting Warhammer figurines
  • No posts about gunpla kits
  • No indicator of regularly drinking Pipeline Punch flavor Monster drinks
  • Nothing about Fallout: New Vegas, or Celeste, or Delta Rune
  • No pics of a Blahaj
  • No posts about hyperpop groups or experimental electronic music
  • No posts complaining about transphobia, which you'd expect SINCE IT'S LITERALLY ALL WE FUCKING DEAL WITH EVERY GOD DAMN DAY

And he's supposedly trans? GTFO

[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 44 points 6 days ago (2 children)

everything about this case is so weird and confusing, mostly because they are fucking desperate to pin this on a lib/leftist/trans/racialminoirty etc. and they're jumping on the most flimsy shit immediately before having to walk it back when the simple answer is that a white guy from a conservative family in utah that shot someone is way way way more likely to be a chud than anything else

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter tbh, they'll invent whatever nonsense and believe it unequivocally

[–] Carcharodonna@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

Looks like Daily Mail is starting to slowly walkback what they were saying earlier about the trans roommate: https://xcancel.com/adamscochran/status/1966934350538191174#m

They're actually interrogating people he knew if he associated with anyone who is trans. Totally bizarre.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but the fact that they keep claiming he's a leftist but have 0 evidence, despite having him literally dead to rights, says a lot.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I bet this loser never even refurbished an ancient thinkpad smh

[–] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

Or even used arch btw

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The "evidence" the tabloid media has of the claim that the alleged shooter's alleged roommate is allegedly transgender is two-year-old TikTok video where the roommate used a filter to look like a female anime character. Trash media is trash.

He liked anime therefore he's trans.

Ironclad.

[–] barrel_of_a_gun@hexbear.net 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

average weeb:

i-am-adolf-hitler, the commander of the 3rd reich!

Fox news:

is-this this is a trans communist

[–] AlcoholEnjoyer@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago

My literal neo-nazi coworker is in love with anime. It's the only thing he talks about, when he isn't lecturing me on his nazi bullshit.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 70 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Currently bewitching the local white guys to slaughter fascists bridget-pride-stay-mad

[–] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 71 points 6 days ago (7 children)

need cis bf who shoots conservative pundits for me

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[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 51 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 55 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Though he grew up in a largely conservative Mormon family, Robinson was not registered with either major political party and appeared to have become infatuated by the far left in recent years, according to the authorities. “It’s very clear to us and to the investigators that this was a person who was deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox told The Wall Street Journal in a brief interview published Friday.

Jfc, this is so goddamn irresponsible. I know, the source and all, just goddamn this is infuriating that they can just post / announce this shit without it being "clear"

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All you need is a source. It’s National enquirer shit, except instead of two random ass people telling you Elvis is still alive living underneath Las Vegas you have the governor of a Utah with a clear agenda running his mouth about trans people and since he’s a notable “reputable” source you report it. Journalism truly in shambles. I mean you are just reporting what comes out of the guys mouth but you can also choose to report some things and not other things and the fact that they decided to report his “this is leftists” thing with no real evidence they are just showing their whole asses

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago

This is literally their job except usually it's just playing stenographer for cops.

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[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm surprised they didn't do more to manufacture something on Tyler when he was arrested. It's kind of like they were all so sure the shooter would be brown, an immigrant, or trans that they got lazy. Now it's getting late and they need something before files are charged this week. Chuds have been putting in OT either being voluntarily mods for the whole internet or manufacturing photos/text.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago (5 children)

If I'm giving them a little bit more grace, I think they just weren't aware of how big the far right (farther than Kirk) is, so they hadn't even thought of the possibility that the shooter's politics would be to the right of Kirk's. It's Utah, I doubt they thought it would be anything but a cis white dude.

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[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 33 points 6 days ago (9 children)

********AXIOS IS REPORTING THIRD HAND

They are reporting that people they have talked to WERE TOLD BY INVESTIGATORS THAT THEY THINK THEY HAD A ROMANTIC RELATIONSHIP AND THEY THINK THE ROOM MATE MIGHT BE TRANS.

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just goes to show something even more horrifying. This hatred is actually based on nothing, they just want people dead literally because “no reason, I just don’t like them.”

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

They blame them for all their problems, so if their problems are caused by literally anything else (especially themselves) their entire worldview falls apart.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 32 points 6 days ago

Anyone but one of 'their own'. Pinning it on a trans person is just icing the cake.

[–] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

All links to the NY Post belong in the dunk tank or bad posting or whatever the containment com is

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[–] AlcoholEnjoyer@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I saw this first on r/conservative. I got a little worried, hoping it pans out to be completely false.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 52 points 6 days ago

Good news: there's no reason to believe it's true at all, and the fact that they're not presenting any evidence points to it being false

Bad news: we don't live in a world where evidence matters

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 37 points 6 days ago (5 children)

He saw a trans woman once and went so mad by her eldritch beauty he just couldn't stop himself from killing the nearest fascist.

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[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Thussy so good white boy got based

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

Sources says his first car was a trans am

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

Stage 3: Bargaining.

[–] abc@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

newsweek?? we're posting newsweek in news now??

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[–] Clippy@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

I hate these fucking evil cretins.

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