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[–] GoddessGundy@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

I don't know who did it. But every patron yesterday at my bar who was spouting off or saying enough is enough, or what is this world coming to, yada yada yada were all real quiet about the whole thing today.

It was a blessed night. Busy. My body is screaming at me. But there was no political talk. Everyone was behaving themselves and besides the one dude I had to kick out yesterday showing up again, it was all around much better.

It almost hurts restraining myself from saying "where's all that shit talking now? Enough is still enough, right!? RIGHT?"

But when I'm working, I'm working. Maybe one day I'll get to be the drunk idiot.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Correction: Registered with no political party, but everything else seems correct.

Edit: https://www.politifact.com/article/2025/sep/12/Tyler-Robinson-Charlie-Kirk-suspect-shooting-facts/

The "Republican" was a different, older, person.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

An important point: Robinson helped Kirk turn to the left as his final act.

[–] CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

not american here.

can someone tell me, what's his motive? The post here saxs he's pro-gun, but why'd he shoot Kirk then?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago

Nothing has really been revealed officially so far, so only speculation. But he appears to be a "groyper" which is another flavor of young fascist douchebag led by Nick Fuentes.

Nick and Charlie had been feuding recently about one of them not being bigoted enough or some shit. The leading theory seems to be that this may have been related to that.

[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

We don’t really know yet. There hasn’t been any solid reporting on who this young man is and he’s not talking to investigators.

If he did do it and can be easily convicted, keeping the motive secret is a potential bargaining chip to avoid the death penalty.

I would guess Kirk being Pro 2A has nothing to do with it.

[–] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

we don't know it's him stop doing the cops work for them spinning the narrative remember luigi mangione they were obviously framed cause they just needed to shut things up and yet everyone went along with it just cause he's hot and it's funny you think they wouldn't do it again don't treat this person as definitely the killer the cops say they are that doesn't mean they are

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 3 points 6 days ago

We have a named suspect and we know the rhetoric of "The Left wants violence" and "violent Trans" suddenly disappeared.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 5 days ago

On one hand, you're right.

On the other, this guy makes for a wonderful scapegoat to deflect all the bigots blaming minorities. I don't think public discourse has much of a bearing on his judicial fate, but it does have a bearing on public opinion on related topics. If blaming him gets the fash to shut their hateful gobs for once, I think that's an acceptable sacrifice.

He's a politically convenient suspect, but this time it's for our convenience, and in this world, I see no reason to play by the rules of justice and truth if our enemy doesn't obey them either.

Besides, I find it hard to feel sorry for a gun nut if they get charged with gun crimes.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

We should all be gun fans too, on this blessed day

[–] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I keep hearing how things need to stop, yada yada yada, and the dangerous liberals... what?

[–] Suffa@lemmy.wtf 8 points 6 days ago

It always is

Everyone's a little queer for Ma Deuce

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 172 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (24 children)

Has there been evidence he's Christian and conservative/republican? I know his family is, but that's not really enough.

I'm not attacking the point being made, I just haven't seen any evidence, and would certainly like to.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 119 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (27 children)

Not Christian, Mormon which is actually quite the distinction here.

And just because he was raised Mormon does not mean he still follows the faith of his parents.

Evidence he was strictly conservative is slim. There is good commentary about this over on (slight retch) reddit in /r/exmormon including the violent aspects of Mormon scripture and how many Mormons hate both Democrats and Republicans.

[–] NotForYourStereo@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Mormons are very conservative. Especially in Utah. They do not hate Republicans, and regularly endorse them and their policies at the pulpit and encourage the congregation to do the same.

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Luckily, your President and members of Congress didn't just knee-jerk feelings and assumptions and stuck to facts. It'd be really embarrassing if they just went on national TV and assumed and spread mis-information.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

It’d be really embarrassing [...]

It would, if they knew shame. But they don't.

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[–] ValarieLenin@midwest.social 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sad case of white on white violence.

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i know it gets forgotten but the shooter in evergreen was also a white cis male radicalised conservative with white supremacist and anti semitic views who glorified columbine.

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