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[โ€“] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 39 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Are Americans aware that in the rest of the world American cars are well known to be of very questionable quality and safety.

[โ€“] Honytawk@feddit.nl 20 points 1 day ago

And size, and fuel efficiency, and weird measurements of parts/bolts.

[โ€“] Glytch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're known for that in America as well, it's just that they're also usually cheaper to buy and to fix when bought domestically. You need to plan for repairs because American roads are poorly maintained.

[โ€“] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Well, they used to be. Digital locks and built-to-fail (instead of just cheap) components plus decreased component manufacturing is making that less of a thing.

And yet some people go out of their way to spend a lot of money to import and maintain that crap. Also not just cars. I don't think they realise that "american made" just means shit and weird measurements in the most cases.

Americans would be buying Chinese cars if we didn't put a 200% tarrif on them

[โ€“] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Almost all our cars and all our major manufacturers are awful, any American that knows anything about cars knows this.

Just overpriced, shittily constructed, designed to fail right after the warranty expires fucking 'luxury' garbage... Ford broke GM's previous all time record for how many recalls they've had to issue this year...

... and that was in July, with half the year to still go.

American manufacturing is fucking joke.

(Well, outside of firearms, we're still fairly good at that, what a surprise.)

I also would rather buy a Chinese car.

I guess Trump is actively trying to scare off Hyundai... hopefully Toyota and Honda stick around... also pre-emptive RIP to Nissan.

[โ€“] RedSnt@feddit.dk 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Almost all our cars and all our major manufacturers are awful, any American that knows anything about cars knows this.

You're on "buy european", so when you say "our" do you mean Europe or..?

[โ€“] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I mean American.

I am an American agreeing with ya'll that our American cars are ridiculous.

... I didn't even mention that a whole bunch of our cars are also gigantic and can likely barely fit on or navigate most older, more dense, less car-centric Euro cities and their road systems.

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[โ€“] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm looking to replace my Tesla soon. Not because it's a bad car but because of the fascism. It'll likely be a German car, though, because my wife wants this particular model. But otherwise I'd also look at some Chinese ones. I guess the fascism is less obvious with those.

[โ€“] chuck@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's a joke in this some where. I'm just not bright enough to pull it off myself at the moment

[โ€“] ricdeh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I've really enjoyed the Volkswagen ID.4 from my personal experience. I've heard that the ID.5 and ID.7 are pretty good as well. I love the design of the ID.Buzz but I cannot really speak for how well it drives and how practical it is.

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

You thinking of a German BMW i series? They got some decent electric ones.

Another one would be the Hyundai, that's South Korean. While not European, it's an ally and South Korea actually is combatting the fascist terrorists. I'd say that they deserve a prize for that.

(Swedish) Volvo Polestar is also pretty good, seen it a lot here. (That is a bandwagon fallacy right there from me, but nonetheless). It resembles Tesla but is iirc not owned by a fascist.

Edit: another would be Nissan, they got the Leaf. Pretty good too.

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[โ€“] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I'm an american I want one of their EV's. Sounds perfect for driving to work and back.

[โ€“] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Europeans would be buying european cars right now if the european car companies had not started jerking eachothers dicks off in the 2000s

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago

As a European, I can assure you I've seen a growing amount of people buy those European cars. Seeing a lot fewer Teslas now and more BMWs, Volvos, Renaults, and so on.

[โ€“] Akasazh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Idk I like my Dacia

[โ€“] sausager@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As an American I would never buy an American vehicle. Especially not Tesla

[โ€“] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Seriously, one of my family members bought a Chevy and I don't think I would wish that on anyone. Constant failures and problems I've never seen a car that shitty before in my life.

[โ€“] Don_alForno@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago

I would buy neither.

[โ€“] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In Switzerland I've seen lately quite a lot of KIA (those were not present a few years ago) and lots of new Peugeots. Less and less Teslas and Fords. What I've seen a lot is pick up trucks with company logos (quite a few aholes do license these trucks on their company because of taxes. It's often funny becauae the standard small trucks are usually way more usefull than a pick-up truck).

[โ€“] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

The new Peugeots are quite nice, I have a 208 ev and besides a minor issue it's great, despite not having the best range it's still very usable. I would advise against getting any of the gas ones though as these puretech engines are riddled with issues, but that can also be said of most modern European gas cars, because they try all sorts of tricks to reduce emissions and tank reliability in the process.

[โ€“] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Until early this year, this would have been unthinkable for me.

Today, I agree with that statement.

[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. Trump made the US look like an enemy to Europe.

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[โ€“] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Europeans Would Rather Buy Chinese Cars Than American Ones

My spontaneous reaction: yes of course, everybody.

On the other hand, it could be a question of price. If the American ones cost only 5-10% of the Chinese...

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[โ€“] Michal@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

I was in Poland recently and saw a car literally named "Beijing".

[โ€“] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isn't europe not known for making cars?

[โ€“] Honytawk@feddit.nl 12 points 1 day ago

Yes, but that still doesn't change the fact that Europeans would rather buy a Chinese car than a US one.

That they mainly buy European cars doesn't matter.

[โ€“] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Double negative equals yes.

[โ€“] Alchalide@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm a truck driver in the Netherlands and as far as I can tell there is only one US brand on the road left with recent cars and that is ford. They make models that they only sell here in Europe and they even make a new cabover semi truck that I see more and more.

[โ€“] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

in NA, Ford only sells trucks and one car for retiring Boomers.

They sell plenty of cars to cops

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I don't see Fords that often, they actually seem to be getting fewer overall.

Peugeots, Renaults, BMWs, Mercedes, Volvos, Audis from European factories, on the other hand... seeing those a lot.

And also a lot more bicyclists and ebikes. Which helps the car drivers too, cause then roads are calmer, meaning fewer traffic jams. That's why more bicycle infrastructure and protections for bicyclists, would be good.

[โ€“] Alchalide@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I agree, but it's the only US brand that I do see on the road with recent models and tesla ofcourse. I see more and more unknown Chinese brands as well.

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[โ€“] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The only American car I ever considered I would like to buy as a daily driver was a Tesla, and that was way long ago, when Elon seemed a good guy, way before he called the rescuers of those trapped kids pedo.

If I had the money and a real necessity to replace my car, I would buy a BYD almost 98% sure.

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He never was a good guy though, he always was an Americaboo (he was born in South Africa). I remember from those earlier years that he genuinely believed the US was the best country. And considering that his parents contributed to apartheid directly... it's not hard to see why they moved to the US; so they could continue harassing minorities. (Except for Russian ones).

[โ€“] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

When Elon called the guy who rescued the kids a pedo, I thought is was really weird sour grapes because he did it before Elon could make his capsule and be the hero.

But now that I see just how ridiculously addicted to projection right wingers are, and how every accusation is a confession, I begin to worry that Elon liked the idea of being with traumatised kids trapped in a cave in a way that appealed to him in a much nastier way than I realised.

[โ€“] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wouldnโ€™t buy either. Japan or nothing.

[โ€“] huppakee@feddit.nl 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only company that used to sell good in Europe was tesla, i'm not surprised at all

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[โ€“] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

in aus seems to be split, half want giant american tanks and others happy with chinese economy boxes

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[โ€“] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

and then one day, for no reason at all people didn't buy american products

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