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[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why the fuck is this saying it's an Ad in the upper right? He paid for me to read this? He paid money to write words.

[–] Jew@hexbear.net 30 points 2 months ago

Yes, this is what advertising on twitter is now

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A million words and not one is beanis, get it the fuck out of here.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: we can charge people $5 to undermine grok and just write "beanis" 2 million times. Think of the Hexbear earning potential!

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Good news is that vibecoders can't do this in any language as they're too busy putting a semicolon in the middle of a line of Python

"beanis ".repeat(2e6).slice(0, -1)
[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] confusedwiseman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I bet someone would be willing to throw a dictionary at him for free. More words per dollar and incredible transfer bandwidth.

Though this would be more meaningful.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

Whats the velocity of your vocabulary, partner?

[–] HeyGreg@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

I’ve been getting words in bulk from AliExpress for like $3/lb for years already

[–] i_drink_bleach@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A million words of long-winded, bloviating, gibberish that reads like something a high-schooler wrote to hit a word count on an essay about a book they didn't read? For just $6?! Wowee! Take my money!

Alternate Copy: For just $6 you too can select any topic you want and get a million words of slop that nobody wrote and nobody can be bothered to read, including you! Such a great deal!

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe itd figure out some of the old techniques like Dickens getting paid per word so he's also quite.... loquacious to put it nicely

[–] i_drink_bleach@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

But Dickens, as long-winded as he was, was still a good writer. GPT/Grok.... yeah not so much.

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jew@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

I would assume most of them. Its Grok so it has all the slurs too

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not even correct. Grok costs $15/MM output tokens and $3/MM input tokens. To generate a million words (without reasoning, although I don't know if grok-4 is a CoT model) you're looking at around $30-$35 (assuming 2 tokens per word)^[https://docs.x.ai/docs/models] if you want to search with that, it's 2.5¢ per query. I can't believe people pay 2.5¢ for an API call.

For reference, DeepSeek costs $1.68 per million tokens (for both chat and reasoner starting this September, which is nice).

[–] Fossifoo@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And not to forget that these are highly discounted prices. The real costs are much, much higher.

[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah all of these companies are spending vastly more than the revenue they pull in, it’s like a 10x discrepancy between actual cost and what they’re charging to try to sink competitors rn. And it’s only going up

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] Rom@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's because the output from LLMs is worthless.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Libs will accuse communists of not understanding basic economics and then expect something that contains absolutely no embodied labor to have value

[–] huf@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

why would you need a million words though? we already have a bunch of words, i saw some the other day.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I can literally say the words myself for free lmao look: BEANIS

[–] GrafZahl@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago

Shame on you for destroying the jobs of dozens of tax-paying badposters

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

I’m seeing words right now

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Does this cretin not realize how much of a self-own this is?

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I love this bs because the actual enterprise use case of AI is pretty much just coding which is why GPT5 neutered its language expressiveness and whatnot so much. And even for the enterprise customers openAI (and xAi probably too) is loosing money.

Right now it's 6 bucks a million for personal therapy or having it write emails and essays for you. Soon it's gonna be 20 bucks for 100,000 words that are rationed and a mess of scummy plans like mobile phone data companies do. Then it will be that they will explicitly add distinctions between the types of work that LLMs are used for and charge different rates for the tech oligarchs vs the "riff raff".

Also, us "riff raff" will have to pay for AI whether we like it or not because the Telecom companies want to use AI models to improve data bandwidth (yes, it's possible. You can increase the data rate of a connection at the cost of more errors, then you can use AI to correct for those errors).

Ok, admittedly that last one is just some dumb dystopia scenario I randomly cooked up. But I can swear upon God that 6G devices will consume unholy amounts of power and contain wierd ass proprietary and surveillance shit in them, even more than 5G.

[–] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

It will be $88 for 14 words by next year

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You probably wouldn't use an LLM for error correction like that, and it wouldn't be pricing based on type of word, but rather API costs and MCP surcharges, but I think that's a pretty accurate assessment of the situation.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I doubt even LLMs charge by word. They charge by token and API calls.

Current pricing models are based on input and output tokens, but I expect a monthly minimum alongside the API costs soon. The Programmers are probably getting the most out of LLMs right now and eventually Anthropic will realize that they are losing money off Claude code and start squeezing soon.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

a-little-trolling

I'M VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED. I KNOW WORDS, I HAVE THE BEST WORDS.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Just any words!

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

But what about quality? How much do I have to pay to get the best words?

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Thats..... Thats not how it wor... Aw fuck it

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

you don't need to pay 20 dollars i will yap for 2 dollars an hour about anything you want and it'll still be probably more accurate. sure you're paying a premium of 196 dollars but hey you can hold someone accountable if shit hits the fan.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago

A million words, and all of them are 'beanis'

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

You are a worm through time. The thunder song distorts you. Happiness comes. White pearls, but yellow and red in the eye. Through a mirror, inverted is made right. Leave your insides by the door. Push the fingers through the surface into the wet. You’ve always been the new you. You want this to be true. We stand around you while you dream. You can almost hear our words but you forget. This happens more and more now. You gave us the permission in your regulations. We wait in the stains. The word that describes this is redacted. Repeat the word. The name of the sound. It resonates in your house After the song, time for applause. We build you till nothing remains. The egg cracks and the truth will emerge out of you. You are home. You remind us of home. You’ve taken your boss with your boss with you. All hair must be eaten. Under the conceptual reality behind this reality you must want these waves to drag you away. After the song, time for applause. This cliché is death out of time, breaking the first the second the third the fourth wall, the fifth wall, floor; no floor: you fall! How do you say “insane”? Hurts to be happy. An earworm is a tune you can’t stop humming in a dream: “baby baby baby yeah”. Just plastic. So, safe and nothing to worry about. Ha ha, funny. The last egg breaks now. The hole in your room is a hole in you. You came and we let you in through the hole in you. You have always been here, the only child. A copy of a copy of a copy. Orange peel. The picture is you holding the picture. When you hear this you will know you’re in new you. You want to listen. You want to dream. You want to smile. You want to hurt. You don’t want to be.

$2,50 please

[–] D61@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

is-this Is this an AI advertisement for AI?