El Chisme

Badempanada's criticism only makes sense from the perspective that he believes that streaming is activism. Badempanada thinks that he's going to defeat Zionism by being a really annoying person on twitter. It is entertaining that Badempanada is really annoying on twitter. This is the core of why Badempanada is so mad, he thinks that doing an interview is activism and therefore doing a bad interview is bad activism.

I watched the Hasan video and the Badempanda video. Badempanada makes a conspiracy theory that Hasan is "being groomed by the mainstream media" to launder their opinions. Hasan's video says that he agrees that the interview was bad and he didn't know the extent of how bad that Matt Duss is. Badempanada says that Hasan should have been more critical to Matt Duss. Hasan says that he should have been more critical to Matt Duss. So what is the disagreement? The disagreement is that Badempanada thinks that streaming is activism and it seems like Hasan does not agree that streaming is activism.

You think the interview was bad. Badempanada thinks that the interview was bad. Hasan thinks the interview was bad. What happens next? Hasan created this video to say that the interview was bad. At 9 minutes in the video, Hasan say he doesn't care about drama because doing activism (going outside and protesting) is more important than internet drama. Hasan seems to recognize that streaming isn't activism. Badempanada thinks that streaming is activism. That's why he's mad.

I don't think that streaming is activism. Sometimes Hasan does activism by attending protests, the student encampments, or the anti-ICE protests in LA. Other people have said that Hasan inspired them to do activism. Streaming itself isn't activism.

Hasan's stream is a news show. News shows sometimes do bad interviews or have bad guests. Chapo has had many bad guests and they acknowlege it, (contrapoints, Matt Taibbi, etc). Every news show has bad interviews sometimes.

My expectation is only that Hasan recognizes that this was a bad interview and doesn't make the same mistake again.

I watched some of that stream, rare L imo, I made it to one time where he literaly calls himself a "progressive zionist"(50:10), gets a chuckle from Hasan himself as he rolls eyes.

I want to be generous and say I wonder if he was truly not prepared for this guys takes or he just didn't expect this guy to be so upfront about it, it was pretty embarassing and he knew immediately as the guest said it.

Hasan is well read so he knows all the anti-zionist talking points so he can push back, but when the guy starts doing literaly "but what about the communists, we should be honest about the communists, hey Hasan are you not a communist why don't you condemn ~~Hamas~~ Stalin?" shit he should've have pressed that. What about it? What communists? What have they done? And depending on the response end the stream right there. Would have been far, far better for him, more views, engagement, drama etc than continue the interview.

But again I think he wasn't prepared for this guy to be so openly apologetic, I doubt he ever considered the possibility of cutting off a guest early, someone vetted in advance and judged to be "ok".

Its a rare L but a massive one too, he should own up to it. He knew it was bad, his reaction tells as much how uncomfortable it was right away. Buts its all meaningless if you're deer in a headlight moment can't go off script lets just "debate" liberal zionism again.

A pro-Ukraine pro-NATO guy who looks like Vaush defends Israel's right to exist as a Jewish ethnostate. No way.

I think Hasan should've done his due diligence about this guy and dunked on him like Krystal did to Slotkin.

Hasan is committed to the Democratic Party, so this is unsurprising

The fact that people still think that a wealthy streamer, who keeps endorsing Democratic candidates and actively sheepdogs his audience into a bourgeois party, is some sort of principled socialist is laughable.

Never liking piker due to his immense liberalism continues to pay dividends for yours truly

Edit: Lmao just noticed OP wrote “rare” L, cmon comrade that’s cringe af

Yes he’s a liberal. He wants to run progressives, get healthcare, and chill. Socdems be socdemming. The question is why ppl viscerally react to criticism of their comfort streamer who voted for Holocaust Harris in the bluest state in the union purely as a show of fealty to the establishment

He is an opportunist. I think BE is right and he's trying to maintain his connections to the Democratic party and DSA. He may be more radical than how he presents himself on stream, but it doesnt really matter cause he's acting as a funnel back to electoral politics and now legitimizing liberal zionists to his audience.

My Hasan take is that he gets so much bad faith criticism from the worst people on the planet that he’s started to view any criticism as hostile off the bat as a kind of defense mechanism, which is super disappointing even though I kinda get it

What reformism does to a mf 😞

Yeah stop hosting these two faced, unprincipled striver motherfuckers. Too many politicians pull the AOC shit to get progressives to boost them. I'm a communist but in power I'm a fucking right wing genocide supporting poser.

AOC isn't even the first. Obama was the first. And AOC will be fine. The liberal establishment will embrace her. She used progressives to get into the position where the establishment had to recognize her and then she sold out.

Why do you think BadEmpanada is literally any better than Hasan?

All streamers are bad because streaming is bad praxis.

You can never be adversarial, or you might not get such distinguished guests in the future 🫠

Vidal was a fucking lib, but his cattiness by itself became a legend

The best libs are comrades , rejecting acceptable polite society framings outright, doing some prepwork for their show instead of vibing through (not that they do adversarial interviews or have debate perversions). Or theory bros at least reading books and discussing them

guess millionaire can’t hire a guy to do prep work, cause that would reduce cash flow huh

There's a reason we called him Matt Suss during the campaign.

He was associated with the Center for American Progress, which was a , Podesta, and (S)neera Tanden (Bernie Bros, Russophobia) , and John Podesta (Clinton campaign manager stink tank operation. IMO He was a key to get Bernie on board with Russiagate Red Scare bullshit to defelct from the Clinton machine Red Baiting Bernie over his Moscow honeymoon.

Also here's Hasan's FU IDC aren't I radical enough for you? I mean "Let's talk about it."