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Hasn't BE said the opposite of this many times? That he considers himself an entertainer and that all of this extremely online influencer shit is entertainment grifting. And he specifically included himself in that, saying NOT to look to influencers for any kind of leadership or organising because they're not.
Maybe I'm misremembering?
The problem with streamers is that quite often what they say and how they act are completely at odds with each other. They place themselves as the loudest most obnoxious voices and then go 'Oh no, don't actually pay attention to me, I don't actually have an obligation to mean what I say, saying stuff is just my job, you can't get mad at me for doing my job!'.
ah yes the Jon Stewart argument
You are correct, he posted a video about the irrelevance of online leftism like three days ago lol
For the majority of the Badempanada's criticism video, he says that creates a conspiracy theory that "Hasan is being groomed by the mainstream media" to promote "democratic party entryism".
At 22 minutes into the video, Badempanada says "He's going to be highly incentivized to become or to at least maintain the role that he already serves rather than to challenge it." What does this statement mean? Badempanada is asking Hasan to use his news show to "challenge" the Badempanada's perceived societal expectations. This is a call to activism.
Then at 23 minutes into the video, Badempanada says he fears Hasan will "prevent potential anti-systemic energy from really forming into like a critical mass that could potentially do something different or he can surprise me and everyone else by ceasing to allow them to use him." Throughout the video Badempanada has crafted a narrative that Hasan's role in society is to reinforce the status quo and Badempanada is asking Hasan to be an activist for whatever Badempanada's goals are. Badempanada is saying that Hasan's stream is what is holding the status quo together. This is delusional.
None of Badempanada's video makes sense if you treat Hasan like any other news outlet or commentator. Imagine for a second that this video is made about Matt Christman of Chapo or Brace Belden of Trueanon or Amy Goodman of Democracy Now or any media figure. Imagine I say that Brace Belden is preventing potential anti-systemic energy from forming because he's not using Trueanon to promote my ideas. You would recognize that I am being absurd.
Badempanada's video only makes sense from the perspective of believing that Hasan's job is to be an activist which challenges the establishment. If you treat Hasan's stream as a news show, which it is, then Badempanada's video makes no sense.
Badempanada talks about how mass media manufactures consent. Then he makes the assumption that mainstream media will be defeated by alternative media. His whole video is built around Badempanada's delusion that a twitch stream could defeat the mainstream media apparatus.
The solution to "manufacturing consent" is not alternative media. The solution to "manufactured consent" is organizing your community, organize your workplace, join a labor union, join a socialist party, attend an anti-ICE protest, attend an anti-Israel protest, etc.
My expectation of Hasan is not that he defeats the mainstream media establishment. That would be an absurd expectation. My expectation of Hasan is that he reports new stories that interest me, so that I can read further into those news stories and make my own conclusions. If you treat Hasan as a news commentator, him mistakenly giving a bad interview and acknowledging that it was a bad interview, a reasonable response is hoping that he doesn't make the mistake again or don't watch his show. If you expect a person to publicly chastise themself or beg for your forgiveness, then you are not treating that person as a news commentator.