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Gross response.

Here's the Bad Empanada video I finessed this title from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69BlRK9Jql0

Rare Hasan L. Why the fuck is he doubling down on this? Does Bernie really mean that much to you Hasan? hasan-smash

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[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

i really don't get how anyone on this website still falls for the berniecrat "progressive" ruse. It's pathetic. Grow up people. They pretend to be a hard commie until a new AOC 7.0 shows up and they're falling for the exact shit for the umpteenth time. Like holy shit it's so stupid. Stop pretending to be a marxist if you are like this and go be a lib, or fucking read marx already he will cure you of this infantile dipshittery

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

It's because most people here aren't in orgs. If you're in a good org you will rapidly discover that these folks collaborate with your very direct enemies and even sometimes become them. If you're in a bad org you are likely on a journey to joining a good one and will at least still think in terms of what is good or bad for it.

Without this, hexbears remain susceptible to the hegemonic default: bourgeois electoralism and discourse about it.

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

USians never experienced principled marxism

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

nah, we are "ultras" for criticizing Zohran for his squeamish backpedaling and caving to zionist and pro-cop narratives

[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

but what about context and material conditions /s

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah that famous "pro-cop narrative" that none of you ever post despite it being SOOOO damning

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"we need to maintain the size of the NYPD. Defunding the police is not what I believe"

Ooook liberal

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Freezing the size and budget of the NYPD leads to defunding thru inflation and retention issues

You got a better strategy that leads to victory and doesn't amount to first world Maoist daydreaming

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net -1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

no you're an ultra for saying he has to look dead to camera and say "fuck the police" to pass your test

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

he has to look dead to camera and say "fuck the police"

timmy-pray

[–] OnceUponATimeInWeHo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

No I think their point stands

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i am referring very specifically to a conversation with that user in an old mega

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You mean the one where all the radlibs decided that "defund the police" was too ultra and that NYPD is a politically neutral organization and all agreed upon tailism and support of a fascist organization?

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i would guess some of it is user churn, along with hexbear being "big tent" and not explicitly marxist

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago

I see it from 4 year old accounts and power users and mods of comms here

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What does "falling for it" mean in this context?

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Believing Rojava was a progressive project (not a CIA/US Military operation with a mask), attacking Assad, supporting Bernie, supporting AOC, Supporting Hasan, Supporting Zohran, Supporting the DSA, Supporting Democratic Party entrism as a tactic, attacking Russia over its anti-imperialist war, believing Hezbollah and Hamas are fascist, supporting color revolutions in Iran or Hong Kong, etc...

Many people, a sizeable majority on this site, at one point or the other held one or more of these opinions. They need to purge themselves of their liberalism, and stop falling for this line of thought. They will fall for the next imperialist war, and they will fall for the next soc dem stooge.

Most have come around on most of the opinions above to the correct principled stance eventually. It took them a while, it took them years of being proven wrong by reality to adjust to finally admit they were wrong. But then they do it all again the second a new topic comes up, instead of learning and adjusting their entire worldview that led them to the wrong conclusions. If you ever held one of the opinions above, and you find yourself defending the "succ" side of things with much the same arguments as you previously made, stop and smash your head with a hammer a couple times. Maybe it will scramble things up for the better, it seems like something isn't working as is.