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i really don't get how anyone on this website still falls for the berniecrat "progressive" ruse. It's pathetic. Grow up people. They pretend to be a hard commie until a new AOC 7.0 shows up and they're falling for the exact shit for the umpteenth time. Like holy shit it's so stupid. Stop pretending to be a marxist if you are like this and go be a lib, or fucking read marx already he will cure you of this infantile dipshittery
It's because most people here aren't in orgs. If you're in a good org you will rapidly discover that these folks collaborate with your very direct enemies and even sometimes become them. If you're in a bad org you are likely on a journey to joining a good one and will at least still think in terms of what is good or bad for it.
Without this, hexbears remain susceptible to the hegemonic default: bourgeois electoralism and discourse about it.
USians never experienced principled marxism
nah, we are "ultras" for criticizing Zohran for his squeamish backpedaling and caving to zionist and pro-cop narratives
but what about context and material conditions /s
Yeah that famous "pro-cop narrative" that none of you ever post despite it being SOOOO damning
"we need to maintain the size of the NYPD. Defunding the police is not what I believe"
Ooook liberal
Freezing the size and budget of the NYPD leads to defunding thru inflation and retention issues
You got a better strategy that leads to victory and doesn't amount to first world Maoist daydreaming
no you're an ultra for saying he has to look dead to camera and say "fuck the police" to pass your test
Strawman
No I think their point stands
i am referring very specifically to a conversation with that user in an old mega
You mean the one where all the radlibs decided that "defund the police" was too ultra and that NYPD is a politically neutral organization and all agreed upon tailism and support of a fascist organization?
just go be a liberal
i would guess some of it is user churn, along with hexbear being "big tent" and not explicitly marxist
I see it from 4 year old accounts and power users and mods of comms here
What does "falling for it" mean in this context?
Believing Rojava was a progressive project (not a CIA/US Military operation with a mask), attacking Assad, supporting Bernie, supporting AOC, Supporting Hasan, Supporting Zohran, Supporting the DSA, Supporting Democratic Party entrism as a tactic, attacking Russia over its anti-imperialist war, believing Hezbollah and Hamas are fascist, supporting color revolutions in Iran or Hong Kong, etc...
Many people, a sizeable majority on this site, at one point or the other held one or more of these opinions. They need to purge themselves of their liberalism, and stop falling for this line of thought. They will fall for the next imperialist war, and they will fall for the next soc dem stooge.
Most have come around on most of the opinions above to the correct principled stance eventually. It took them a while, it took them years of being proven wrong by reality to adjust to finally admit they were wrong. But then they do it all again the second a new topic comes up, instead of learning and adjusting their entire worldview that led them to the wrong conclusions. If you ever held one of the opinions above, and you find yourself defending the "succ" side of things with much the same arguments as you previously made, stop and smash your head with a hammer a couple times. Maybe it will scramble things up for the better, it seems like something isn't working as is.