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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

The world is turning into one giant shitty customer service experience.

[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I mean pretty stupid to write that in the schools chat app, use signal or shit just regular iMessage

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Anything with a very low rate of true positives applied to a large population is going to have an insane false positive rate. EG a 1 in 7M issue applied to 70M students with a 1% false positive rate would produce 700k false positives. Worse people who are actually planning a school shooting may be more likely to avoid telegraphing their intentions. So you could damage 700k kids futures and traumatize them without even catching many or any of the killers.

[–] Pjonathan@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Shouldn't they have used AI to collect the messages and then have a human manually intervene?

[–] Pjonathan@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Some good news here is that if they apply this to society as a whole the jails would be too full, keep saying the no-no words online!

[–] hark@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I was already glad being out of school before widespread take-home laptops and required after-school logging in to check for homework and shit, but this AI-driven surveillance is on a whole other level. Sometimes I'm wondering if it's just me getting old and doing the old people thing thinking things were better "back in the day" but is this current state not objectively worse, being monitored so much and having no way to really disconnect from school?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

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[–] Insane_Turnip@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is this a Paranoia reference out in the wild? Amazing. Well done!

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Heh, thanks. I see more and more similarity between Paranoia and the real world, as well as all the dystopian 1970s sci-fi I grew up on...

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

Its not a technology issue, its a capitalism issue.

Idealy, people should be able to afford their own devices and just log in via a browser, but capitalism fucks everyone and kids are too poor to have their own laptop and has to use the school-issued one which is obviously managed and surveilled because they can't have you watching porn on it.

Also, #SaveSnowDays, stop forcing an online meet if its snowing and they cant get to school, just let kids have a day off once in a while.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 hours ago

Sounds more like they are maybe using ML classifiers on all the communications they are spying on by conventional means. To me that's not the same as using AI to spy but whatever.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

when we're saying that if the group chat leaks, we end up in prison, it seems like it was true

[–] Pjonathan@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

When the memes become real life

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 43 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

The whole trend of teens rejecting phones for dumbphones is making sense now. If you can't fight big mainstream technology, then fuck big mainstream technology!

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

and then it's even worse, you go through sms which is even less confidential

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

...In a way yes, in a way no. A phone that's SMS and Calls only has a few advantages. One is that other apps can't spy on SMS because there aren't other apps to spy on the SMS. The SMS vulnerabilities en-route still exist, sure, but you're no longer being monitored by Apple, Google or anyone else by default.

Sure, the ideal situation is for all of them to get on Signal, XMPP, Briar, SimpleX... fucking roll a D20. They're also more about it due to screen-on time than privacy. I don't think they're of any belief that privacy is even attainable.

[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

As soon as my pixel 8 shits the bed I'm going back to a dumbphone

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm gonna snag another used Oneplus phone that has decent community love and keep rolling custom roms until Google stops me.

...and once they stop me(in ten years or so), a dumphone with tethering and a secondary device. And if they implant a chip into my brain, I'll go luddite, live in the woods, read poetry and eat mushrooms.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

Isn't this the plot of Shimoneta?

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 34 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

What is sad is that an environment like this ruins someone’s mental health and ironically increasing the overall risk of violence.

[–] belit_deg@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Don't remember whose quote it was, maybe Hannah Arendt, that the real tragedy of tyranny is not when people self-censor what they say out loud, but when this leads them to filter out those thoughts from arising at all

[–] arararagi@ani.social 8 points 10 hours ago

That's the surveillance panopticon, they know they are being watched, but not when.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

Then, those in charge can criminalise you.

[–] BD89@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 15 hours ago

Thought control

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 24 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

“I wish that was treated as a teachable moment, not a law enforcement moment,” said Patterson.

Seems like the Gaggle CEO has a good view. They're still an enabler in these situations. Be it poor guidance or training. With the impact they have, taking responsibility would be tracking and ceasing contracts that do not follow this soft response approach.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 34 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

We are living in the shittiest kind of cyberpunk dystopia. Can't wait for AI-induced cyber-psychosis once people implant Musk's chips into their brains and give MechaHitler full access to their subconscious.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

The good news is newer chips go on the OUTSIDE of your head because it turns out, you can't market brain surgery

[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 29 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I can't say for certain because I wasn't given one but I can't imagine me and my friends would have been willing to communicate with each other on devices provided by our school. Even in the early 00s it would have been filled with spyware.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 12 points 17 hours ago

I cannot possibly imagine trusting a school issued device.

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