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Developing crops that are worth farming was a really hard technology to develop and took thousands of years of slowly getting better aged better crops.

once we had them, civilization began.

[–] tgirlschierke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

We got from the first flight to the Moon landing in 66 years.

[–] greygore@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Less mind blowing but still shocking to me - it’s been 53 years since we last set foot on the moon, much less gone beyond that. Humanity has lost our ambition.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We didnt lose our ambitions. The geopolitics have changed. The space race was ultimately was a big dick measuring contest between two super powers. When the soviets couldnt make it to the moon, there was no reason to push further.

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, I remember a documentary when I was in 5th grade in 2007 talking about how we would have landed on mars by 2015. 2025 and not even any real progress by elon going towards mars.

Humanity lost its ambition like I lost mine, complete with self abuse

[–] greygore@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Werner von Braun, the primary architect of the Saturn V rocket that took us to the moon, had plans to get us to Mars by 1984. Not sure that was completely realistic, but it’s hard to believe that 40 years after that we don’t even have any serious plans.

I’m sorry to hear about your self abuse. This internet stranger is hoping that you’re in a better place.

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

Hmmmm... Makes you think, doesnt it? Pretty suspicious... /s

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

It makes more sense when you know there were only a few thousand humans and they were basically Sun readers.

[–] Cattail@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

Cavemen were really busy chasing various animals and running away from various animals. Then there's whole exploring new lands and encountering other humans species. Progress could be slow and cataclysm were a many

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

God these people are dumb.

Imagine thinking like that. Does this guy not know how technology works, has he been alive for only 5 minutes.

If you want to see the rapid progress of technology go look at video games, 20 years ago if you had 30 polygons on screen at the same time you were doing well, now we have photo realistic graphics.

[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Solid point, yeah, but 20 years ago was 2005.

GTA: San Andreas released 21 years ago.

Half-life 2 released 21 years ago.

Morrowind released 23 years ago.

Ocarina of Time released 27 years ago.

Crash Bandicoot released 29 years ago.

Star Fox released 32 years ago and had 500-600 tris on any given frame.

DOOM also released the same year, but is not true 3D

Obviously your point still stands, but full true 3D games were common by the late 90's, and pseudo 3D games were prevelant as early as '92 with Wolfenstein 3D.

Unfortunately, time flies.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Twenty years ago was and will always be 1992, due to the world ending in 2012.

You may see signs of continued world activities, but this is actually the post-world credits scene, which is expected to go on for 10 to the power of 97 years, and cost 10 to the power of 112 dollars when you account for inflation.

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Solid point, yeah, but 20 years ago was 2005.

you SHUT YOUR SLUT WHORE MOUTH!!

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

As a 4090 owner, I can confidently say that we don't have photorealistic graphics yet.

But I get your point.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 173 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Progress is exponential, anon.

That first spark is much harder to produce than the fire that follows.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 87 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 days ago

shit good point

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Big AFAIK: The anatomically correct human first appeared roughly 300.000 years ago. In the next 200.000 years they almost certainly genocided all their relatives. After a couple of behavioural changes here and there they had a mutation about 50.000 years ago which changed their brains, improved their communication skills immensely and they finally and truly became what humans are today. But they still wandered around until they finally started growing shit in the ground about 13.000 years ago. But it took about 7.000 additional years for some nerd to start writing roughly 5.000 years ago.

So yeah. The milestones are happening in ever shorter intervals.

[–] brisk@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Source on that mutation? 50 000 years ago humans were already spread across Africa, Asia and Australia. That makes the idea of a critical mutation after that sound implausible

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

There was no mutation, or at least there's no evidence for it. The big change 50.000 years ago likely happened because population density finally became large enough to meaningfully transmit and preserve culture.

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 30 points 3 days ago (5 children)

They genocided each other too.

The skeletal remains that we find of males at dig sites have vast amounts of damage to them, and we find significantly less women and girl skeletal remains. Aeons later and the heterogeneity of the Y chromosome is suspiciously low in contrast to that shown in mtDNA. That's a lot of killing and raping

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[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't say genocided per se. We have pretty significant percentages of non-homo sapien DNA. Which implies a decently high degree of inter-breeding.

My money is on a combination of inter-breeding leading to genetic extinction through dilution, resource competition (strained by changing environmental conditions), and of course inter-group conflict.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Extrapolating from this, major milestones would happen faster and faster until 2023, where all remaining major milestones happened simultaneously with the release of OpenAI's ChatGPT 4. For only $200/mo, you can experience this magical moment for yourself with unlimited access to our best ChatGPT models!

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Technology grows exponentially. What doesn't add up is OOP's brainpower.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Technology grows exponentially.

There's a compounding effect to advances in different fields. But I would posit it's not exponential, but sigmoid.

Early in the study of a scientific field, discoveries are slow and difficult. But as the benefits of research are industrialized, you see a critical mass of research and human labor invested in applied sciences. You see a surge in development up until you hit a point of diminishing returns. Then the benefits of research diminish and the cost of maintaining the libraries of information and education grow beyond the perceived benefit of further academic work. Investments slow and labor product diminishes over time. Existing infrastructure cements itself as the norm and improvements become more expensive to impose. Finally, the advances in technology plateau for a period of time.

Eventually, you hit on another breakthrough and there's a new surge in investment and novel infrastructure, until that well of new useful information is exhausted.

Periods of rapid and transformative growth may look meager and unimpressive in hindsight simply because you are standing on the shoulders of giants. But can anyone seriously argue that the steam engine (17th century) was less significant than the nuclear power plant (20th century), when a nuclear power plant has - at its core - a very high efficiency steam engine? We don't seem to recognize 300 years of internal combustion as a period of relative technological stagnation.

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[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago

Anon (plural) isn't exactly famous for their intelligence

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 118 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Every invention or discovery sped up our development. We wasted hundreds of thousands of years chasing prey and foraging for food with little to no time or energy to spare for anything else. Agriculture gave us excess time and energy to pursue other things than bare survival. Writing allowed us to better record and share ideas and knowledge. Mathematics allowed us to better understand the world. Fertilizer allowed us to boost our food production and population, which meant more brains to figure things out. Computers allowed us to almost instantly solve problems that would have taken centuries to do by hand, further speeding up our technological development. All of it has been exponential so far.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

The hunter-gatherer cultures we see today actually seem to have a lot of free time. Seems like technological and cultural progress has different mechanics.

I'd say agriculture's influence is that it's a big incentive for people to stay in one place and develop relative dense communities, that density is what is actually speeding up progress.

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Once humans started cooking food and writing stuff down. We progressed rapidly.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Actually the biggest factor was most likely the development of language, which probably required certain evolutionary traits in order to be possible. With language, collaboration and cooperation become much easier, which leads to fire and cooking and other ideas like that. You get to writing things down a lot later.

[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

The person before you is referencing the speed lf development. It is very likely that humans possessed relatively sophisticated language for the 190k years ebfore civilization happened. Exponential, or at least greatly accelerated, growth seems to really pick up after writtrn language happens in many cases.

theres evidence of cooking by honinid species stretching back well, WELL before homo sapiens arrived on the scene, and plenty of evidence suggesting people like had sophisticated language for that time as well.

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

It's about the communication of technology, not the technological advancement itself. Language is a relatively recent human adaptation.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 53 points 3 days ago

they spent a large chunk of that 190k years hooting at each other because it took FOREVER to develop language

[–] grue@lemmy.world 63 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Agriculture is a Hell of a drug.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Speaking of drugs, it probably just took 190k years for someone to work up the courage to eat the mushrooms growing out of the poop.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Also cooking before you eat matters a lot

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago

Take it back farther.

First cellular life 3,800,000,000 years ago. Then 3,300,000,000 years of just single cell organisms. Then in the last 15% of the history of life on Earth, everything else.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

Fake: Anon understands maths

Gay: Anon thinks about hairy men

[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

There wasn't really a material need to invent concepts such as agriculture, debt and other kinds of concepts we recognize as part of documented human history and development. There's no need to farm if few humans there are can sustain themselves via hunting and gathering, neither do you need wheels for transportation. Once there was a historical need due to higher populations or weather not allowing foraging, that's when the concepts got invented and allowed us to build on that with other discoveries and concepts that led us here.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If there's one hard lesson of history I keep relearning, it's that almost nothing ever happens until it materially is required to happen. Language and agriculture waited until population density was high enough. The industrial revolution didn't happen until the logistics and population sizes again necessitated massive changes, even though the steam engine was hundreds of years old. Revolutions don't happen until the population is starving.

If anything in history is impressive it's the rare individuals and societies that change before they're forced to by material necessity (and those cases are often debatable). Really dampens the notion of idealism being viable.

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