this post was submitted on 06 Aug 2025
406 points (99.3% liked)

politics

25121 readers
2102 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Create

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

I've been screaming this since 2009.

Others have been screaming longer.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

/signed.

Make it hurt. Stick it to the hilt and twist it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There's an internal cost to gerrymandering that the moderate Republicans are paying in spades. The Dick Cheney wing of the party drew all these cloistered bright-red districts, only to see neoconservatives forced out of the party by their distilled MAGA base 20 years later.

I think conservative Democrats (of which Gavin Newsom and Kathy Hochul are increasingly aligned) see a gerrymandered blue state majority presenting a similar threat. Rather than a rump caucus of Pelosis and Durbins and Cuomos, they'd be threatened with upstart campaigns from more Mamdanis and Soto-Martinezes and Ilhan Omars.

Who wants that?

So liberals will make noise about fighting fire with fire. But then they'll sit on their hands, fully aware that a MAGA majority benefits conservative Dems who can present themselves as "the only other viable alternative" in purple districts. They don't want to run more AOCs or Sanderses. They want more Slotkins and Schiffs and John Delaneys.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Hopefully they are starting to realize they don't have a choice. Either run more AOCs or cede all power to Republicans.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Given how the party behaved in '20, '22, and '24, I think they've already made their choice.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure if the Democrats started playing the same game the Republicans are playing they'd dominate. They need to grow up, put on their big girl pants, and get back to governing instead of letting the republicans steal their lunch.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

Democrats have already been playing this game. Illinois already only has 2 Republicans in the house, California uses a jungle primary that helps prevent Republicans from winning. New York has a lot of close districts already.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 85 points 1 day ago (20 children)

Beto O’Rourke: Governors in [blue] states all say some variation of “You better watch out what you do. If you do that, we’re going to strike back.” I would love, and I think the country would love, if Democrats got off the back foot and stopped reacting and responding with “If you do this, then I’m going to do that.” F— that. Take the offense—go after these guys. This is the game now. There are no refs; no fouls are going to be called. There’s no consequence or penalty for Trump redrawing the maps in Texas mid-decade. Stop pretending like there is. Stop waiting for them to do it when clearly, that’s what they’re going to do if we’re unsuccessful in this quorum break. We have an opportunity with Democratic governors to seize the initiative and not just wait to be hit and then to hit back, but start that redistricting process now, in California, in New York, and any state where Democrats control the governor’s mansion and the legislature. Quit f—ing around and waiting when you know exactly where this thing is going.

Yep

They want to focus on one battle at a time, because they don't want to win the war. The Dems he's complaining about take most of the same bribes as Republicans.

We passed the point of "hitting back" being enough decades ago.

Doesn't matter if Texas pulls this off, every blue state needs to start proactively fighting back

Like Beto said, if so.eone doesn't want to fight, they can get the fuck out of office. All they're doing is stopping someone else from fighting.

load more comments (20 replies)
[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gerrymandering has been an obvious problem for decades. The only people that didn't see a problem are those congress critters that got elected to one. ("Well, it worked to get me elected so it's obviously not broken.")

The shape of my very blue congressional district in a very blue state most closely resembles projectile vomit on a linoleum floor.

Democrats have had multiple opportunities to fix this shit over the decades, and instead they've just been using it to their advantage wherever possible. The Fair Representation Act has been our best opportunity to fix gerrymandering, and it died in committee in every congressional session since 2017.

I would argue most of the elected representatives at the state and federal levels have no interest in fixing gerrymandering, because gerrymandering is what got them elected.

[–] Azal@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago

Missouri voted to get rid of gerrymandering. Of course the state overthrew it, and are now trying to crack another district because having a chokehold isn't enough of an advantage.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (7 children)

We must do everything to tear down the republican traitor filth.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah it really is fight fire with fire time

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how many Republicans would be unseated with rank choice voting....

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Probably not as many as you think. People simply underestimate the amount of stupid people in the US and the extend to which people hate Democrats because of their spinelessness.

Even now, at the night of Trump's bullshit, people hate Trump they don't love Democrats.

Because the current democratic leadership has no ideas, has no vision other than the status quo.

They are fucking opposing progressive candidates like the NY mayor.

We're truly fucked, stuck between fascists and neo cons disguised as Democrats.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

The iron silo was erected in 1996 and we know they were working on it at least as far back as the '70s with Nixon, Ailes, Weyrich, et. al. The current conflict has not been contained within a culture war because the GOP does not want it to.

The redistricting war must happen next/now. Battle lines must be drawn out in open to reflect what the GOP has already implemented in secret in across the country. Bring it out in the open. Everything should be loud and obvious so nobody can hide from the reality of what happens next.

load more comments
view more: next ›