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After months of sharply criticizing President Donald Trump’s actions, decisions and rhetoric, the left-leaning MeidasTouch Podcast overtook the Joe Rogan Experience for the first time last week, according to YouTube’s weekly ranking of top podcast shows.

While Rogan’s 20.1 million YouTube followers dwarf MeidasTouch’s 5.2 million, the podcasting giant’s show finished in second place. Progressive YouTuber Brian Tyler Cohen and conservative-leaning Sean Ryan’s shows also made the top ten.

The MeidasTouch Podcast saw its rankings climb in July as Trump attempted to appease Congress, the media, and voters over his administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case, with episodes zeroing in on the president’s past ties to and comments about the disgraced financier.

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 130 points 3 weeks ago (19 children)

I have no fucking idea why people watch Rogan, he's not particularly well versed in anything other than martial arts, he's not brilliant or even well spoken or educated by any stretch of the imagination... it feels to me as if he became popular because the average idiot finds this interesting but in reality he's just talking about nonsensical themes with some guests that, surprisingly, are quite well educated themselves.

I'll always remember this man as the crazed idiot who screamed bloody murder at a zoologist because her findings, research and experience contradicted what he wanted to showcase so at that moment he truly showed who he was.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 119 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

he's not brilliant or even well spoken or educated by any stretch of the imagination

That's the point. He's the average American idiot. I grew up with legions of these guys. He got people to eat bugs in the 2000s for insane ratings.

The masses are garbage people.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with listening to people that aren’t smart for podcasts. I listen a lot to sports podcasts that are just 2 people shooting the shit about random things.

Now it IS a problem if you base your political identity and take voting advice from them yes. Joe Rogan should not be someone ever reported on by CNN.

But saying that every podcaster has to have a PHD is a bit heavy handed.

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[–] Carvex@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago

He’s like a friend’s older brother who isn’t educated but tells coolbro stories and conspiracies with no backing. It’s edgy and cool if you’re 14 with no life experience, but besides that it’s just noise which helped Yamtits get elected.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

People also like McDonald's and coca cola ...... even when they have runaway diabetes.

The popularity of something or someone is just a barometer of the general intelligence of a population ..... and judging by what's happening in the US, it's a very low level indeed.

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[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Rogan used to have great stuff on his show pre-covid, especially MMA talks. He even had a great episode with Michael Osterholm at the beginning of the pandemic.

Shortly after that, he 180'd on his vaccine stance, and moved from Cali to Texas. Since then, he's been a total conservative pundit.

I've long since kicked Rogan from anything I listen to, but there was a time where he was entertaining, and did have great guests. Some of his "talking nonsense" was kind of what made his show fun, when it was harmless. Now he spreads misinformation and perpetuates brainrot in young men.

[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am in the same boat.

Joe Rogan was a good interviewer, he is humble and unassuming and gives enough space to the guest to share. If you are into the guest, then you will enjoy it, I really enjoyed his interview on Tarantino and a few others.

It is also nice when he interviews comedians, since you can see the camaraderie and some of them are really funny, like Chapelle, Burr or CK. It is very interesting to listen to them if they are given space.

I stopped to listen when it became obvious that he is monetizing or capitalizing all the audience he has gained over the years. He is not a neutral commentator, he is a pundit with an agenda and he is making bank on it. That has degraded the image I had of him to the image I have of people as O'Reilly or the Bow-Tie guy.

It is a shame but I will not listen to anything from his show on principle.

[–] EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

For me, it was the episode when he had Tim Pool on with the Twitter executives. Pool was like "Twitter discriminates against conservatives" and Vijaya Gadde was like "Moderation is not discrimination". Rogan did realize his mistake five minutes into the episode, but he showed just how impressionable he was. The whole show lost the allure after that. There's a thin line between curious and gullible.

[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I don't mind gullible. I think that is just part of his persona.

What I mind is that he is a dishonest and malicious manipulator.

It became obvious in his political commentary that he was subjective on purpose with an agenda, that means he is being paid one way or another.

When he finally endorsed Trump, it became undeniable.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll always remember this man as the crazed idiot who screamed bloody murder at a zoologist because her findings, research and experience

I missed that because I keep as little Joe Rogan in my life as possible, who was that? What was she talking about?

[–] zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

I, too, would love to laugh at this 1% fascist-supporting useful idiot.

[–] Khlo@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

What's this story about the zoologist?

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[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Wait, how is he dethroned? The article states Rogan has more watchers/viewers.

For the record I hate that bald turd.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right. They kind of buried it.

According to data analyzed by Newsweek using podcast analytics platform Podscribe, the MeidasTouch Podcast was the most downloaded podcast overall between June 7 and July 7.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It's the first paragraph in the post...

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[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

maybe someone stole his chair

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

I wondered this too. But Rogan is just first in followers. MeidasTouch was first in views. Also, this was only for YouTube, which according to the article is the top podcast service now, which is hard to believe considering WHY podcasts have taken over.

The data showed MeidasTouch amassed 124 million views in that period, with Rogan scooping the second spot with 39.2 million views.

I think it helps that MeidasTouch has much MUCH shorter episodes. Like, any of Rogan's 3 hour videos counts as 1 view. Hours watched would probably be different.

On Spotify, the story is way different too. I guess that makes sense to my other point of why podcasts are popular. It's a lot easier to just listen to an imbecile ramble in the background for 3 hours than to watch it.

On Spotify, however, Rogan remains king, taking the number one spot, while MeidasTouch secured the 73rd spot on the audio streaming company’s U.S. podcast charts.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The article links to YouTube statistics for the week ending Jul 28, and during that 7-day period MeidasTouch got more views.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Cool, but what I dislike about the MeidasTouch is how they seem to prop up the importance of something against Trump when it's usually something that isn't going to make him flinch. They are giving people a false sense of security when people should be realizing that they will need a revolution to get out of fascism.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Clickbait works. If that's what it takes to get promoted in the algorithm and compete with the right-wing garbage, then so be it. It's better than the right-wing garage being presented unopposed.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"This Bombshell ruling will be the end of Trump"

Goes into 12 minute video and then says it likely won't change anything.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 weeks ago

"THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN"

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

He doesn't cares about nothing and understands less, so your criticism is that they just don't attack his ego 100% of the time.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

People need to start somewhere, and sometimes smaller acts of defiance can grow

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't really care for either, and I'm particularly politically minded and listen to podcasts almost exclusively. They just aren't very interesting or funny, the two things I need in a podcast. What's the appeal, rage?

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Rage seems to win elections.

[–] tylerkdurdan@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

You might like The Daily Beans (with Allison Gill and Diana Goldberg)

I’ve been finding the tone “you’re not alone” tone of anger to be… helpful.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I’m glad Meidas is surging in popularity but the bros are fucking annoying at times.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago

The children (TikTokkers) yearn for annoying podcast hosts

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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

JOE ROGAN: the guy (who's opinion I could not care less about) that would RATHER VISIT RUSSIA than CANADA.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's "whose" and it looks like you CARE A LOT?

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Whose that now?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Ugh. Rightwing liberals under a veneer of anti establishment

But also, I don't trust these rankings. Downloads of episodes versus streaming on YT versus the app versus follower counts. It's all very apples to oranges.

What I can say positively, is that The Majority Report gets about as many live viewers as Meidas touch an YT, and has for much longer as a genuinely progressive outlet. Likewise, for better or worse, TYT has also been putting up those kinds of numbers for a very long time.

But it is interesting to me to see MT bump JRE. It does say something about a turning tide.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

Does anyone remember the simpler times where Phillip de Franco was relevant and TYT was leftist? Sigh. The internet is dying.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Incredibly misleading title and also Who?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Donald Trump. Maybe you've heard of him?

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't that the guy on Epstein's list?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Donald Trump, the guy with Mike a dozen separate lists in the Epstein files and was totally best buds until Epstein poached from his happy ending massage parlor?

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Dude is a loser and manipulates his audience for profit instead of running a business to support and/or entertain for good, just like everyone else on that side/way of business.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Rogan just transitioned because that was his base. He leaned more into the base, knowing he would bank millions. Sean Ryan, I would argue, is even more interesting than Rogan. He admits when wrong and will change his views when presented strong evidence. Like the Gavin Newsome interview he had for example.

Rogan just goes along with the guest, some things might stick like the moon landing was fake. But most of Rogan is just going with the flow.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

I just scrolled through the top podcasts in Apples Podcasts app. I didn’t realize the landscape had changed so much. There sure is a bunch of bullshit in the top 50 these days.

I knew a bunch of these were popular on YouTube, but I didn’t realize how that was translating to overall podcast rankings on a separate platform.

Makes me miss the more innocent days of early podcasts. And also clarifies why all my favorite long running podcasts say the advertising market for podcasts isn’t what it use to be.

I don’t see how these three bros lookin like assholes in suits are as popular as they are. The branding makes me suspicious.

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