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[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Largest prison population both in absolute size AND per capita. Also, random fact, their constitution allows prisoners to be forced into slave labour. Also, another random fact, their prisons are run for profit. None of these facts are related of course!

[-] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Next you’re going to tell me that these for-profit prisons lobby the government for harsher prison sentences for things like cannabis possession.

[-] bighi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only for people that are black or poor.

[-] cornbread@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Chile, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, Peru, South Africa, South Korea and Thailand.

This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

[-] frickityfracktictac@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

True, however there are bs for-profit elements to even the non-for-profit prisons. Predatory costs to calling / commissary / etc. that still benefit companies when the US imprisons more people.

[-] cornbread@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. We need a prison reform.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Even "not for profit" prisons are lining millionaires pockets with infrastructure and maintenance contracts.

[-] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

And house arrest is being used for mass incarceration of people being ACCUSED before conviction. The punishment can be more severe before conviction.

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And many states let private companies charge accused people up to $40 a day for the ankle bracelets.

[-] httpjames@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Did you also watch that Vice documentary?

[-] Sternout@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Wtf Do they get it back if found not guilty? Do you have a source?

[-] PMmesexypajamas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Uhh...nope.

Also...about 25% of the people incarcerated in America aren't even convicted of a crime yet.

Even if they're found innocent, it's likely already cost them their job or made it so they are so far behind on bills from not working that it becomes next to impossible to climb out from under

[-] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Only about 8% of the US prison population is in for-profit prisons.

That's still about 96,344 people. Which is nearly double the total prison population of Spain.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 year ago

And how many of these other prisons offer up their prisoners as extremely cheap labor to businesses that ARE for profit?

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[-] geissi@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Reminder that the US have never abolished slavery for prisoners and have one of the largest slave population in the world.

[-] Zithero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep... And every time there's an employment issue for the agricultural industry, they whip out the prisoners...

However to the prisoner's credit: They do an absolutely terrible job at whatever it is they're doing.

Why? What are they going to do... Fire you? Jail you? You have no incentive at all to do the job well as a prisoner.

Bonus is by doing a horrific job it makes employers less likely to actually request prison workforces.

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[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Nice to see that even here - a shitposting forum - whenever anybody posts anything negative about America, yanks can't handle it.

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[-] Novman@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

And an huge colonial empire ( europe/japan/korea )

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[-] S_H_K@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

They made it a business. How many places in the world have private incarceration facilities?

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[-] Hikiru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’ve heard some prisons have minimum prisoner requirements, which is incredibly fucked up

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