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[-] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Yesterday they made higher education less accessible to non-whites, today they made it harder for the poor...

I wonder if there's a pattern here.

[-] mcc@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Why does this make it harder for the poor to access higher education? A debt forgiveness will make current debtors less burdened but will probably make it more expensive for new applicants. Isn't it the other way around?

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[-] minorsecond@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

But the forgiven PPP loans are A-OK, right? Fuck this shit.

[-] wwaxwork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Friendly reminder Biden lost the battle but he hasn't lost the war. He is currently working out an income related savings plan and doing a hail mary long shot roundabout come in the back door play using the Authority he has from the Higher Education Act to create debt forgiveness regulation. He's still out there trying, though anything through the Dept of Education will take a while because of how policy works there.

Fuck Trump and his supreme court. We're going to be suffering the effects of Republican stupidity for the next 40 years.

[-] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

If you need any reason not to believe in god, it's that Trump got to appoint THREE FUCKING SUPREME COURT JUSTICES

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[-] LeZero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dont forget to thank RBG, who refused to retire under Obama for some fucking reason, only to get owned by COVID after officiating a wedding for some dumb liberals (while having an immune system shredded by cancer)

Well it gave us the funniest trump interview imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knlJWu815C0

[-] Empyreus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If there is a minimum age in government, there needs to be a maximum. I'm over these 70 year olds running things.

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Downvoted by people who refuse to look at when Democrats make stupid decisions that fuck us.

I thought Lemmy was supposed to be full of tankies, not milquetoast centrist capitalist apologists....

[-] LeZero@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can downvote away, I will never not shit on Ginsberg (also libtards infect spaces just like right wingers)

[-] 14specks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

libtards

I'm onboard with the spirit of the post, but I encourage you to find another insult

[-] sergio@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

agree, how do you feel about shitlib?

[-] Kururin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unless the dems take back court we would be all living through a nightmare.

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe Hilldawg could have campaigned in Wisconsin or taken seriously that even if she won the popular vote, that the Electoral College actually mattered.

Reminder, she did win the popular vote. The majority did vote for her.

Or maybe Obama could have kept his campaign promise that codifying Roe vs. Wade in law was his first order of business.

But sure, it's our fault, Hilldawg, because we didn't vote hard enough.

[-] Pacifist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I fail to see why you're turning this around on her. She simply stated a fact that became reality.

[-] Ado@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This happens every election cycle. We do our job by electing them. They are privy to what will happen and fail to act when they have the power to do so. Who else do we blame? The universe?

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[-] ramblechat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don’t have kids but am perfectly happy to pay more tax to make education free or cheaper. How can anyone argue that a less educated society is better? The more people that can experience higher education is plainly a good thing. There could be someone out there who could make a medical or technological breakthrough but doesn’t get the chance because they can’t afford to go to college.

[-] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I think the main argument is that this isn't the way to go about that. The universities are totally out of control and need to be forced to curb their spending to make things more affordable before we just start handing them public funding like this.

[-] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well I think this move is only going to hurt people in the short run, it was just asking for further dive in a recession, I do agree with this sentiment of it.

Tuition prices are absolutely insane. Colleges and universities are spending money on ridiculous nonsense, and that needs to be reigned in severely before Just throwing billions more taxpayer dollars at them.

That said, these funds weren't going to the universities. They were going to the banks, so cutting this off isn't going to influence tuition rates in any way.

[-] wslack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

need to be forced to curb their spending to make things more affordable

How? Students are choosing more expensive places. The market is driving this.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don’t really think anyone in the government has a good solution for this, do they?

Remove the available money? Only the rich go to college. Add more money? The prices go up.

You could try regulating it, but then you just get colleges that refuse to accept government money, while simultaneously asking for the same amount.

I’m sure someone has a solution that would work, but it’s not anyone with the power to implement it, that’s for sure.

[-] freo3579@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

just make public universities cheaper, private sector will feel the competition and lower prices.

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I honestly don’t think so. Private universities are already more expensive, why would they care if that gap widened more?

My "favorite" part of the majority ruling is how the loan forgiveness was struck down because it would harm the loan servicers. Not the government, not the people, the companies that have been contracted to collect the loans. That's who SCOTUS is most concerned with. Should tell us everything we need to know about who's interests are most important - capitalists

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not only did they admit that MOHELA didn't have standing, MOHELA itself said this wouldn't impact them and they didn't ask to be part of the case.

Funny how it turns out that standing doesn't matter when they don't want it to.

Kinda similar to the other case they dropped this morning, allowing LGBT discrimination... despite the fact that it turns out that no gay person ever actually asked this bakery to make them a website for their wedding. When contacted, the man who purportedly sent the email claimed he never sent it and has been married to a woman for years. They don't even give a shit if it's made up they will sign off on it.

[-] Randy_Bobandy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Who here still thinks republicans should be allowed to vote and hold elected office and write and pass laws?

Show of hands?

Great, everyone who raised their hand deserves this shit. Everyone wants to hate on Republicans, but when it comes to the voting booth, everyone defends them to the death. Well this is what you get. But DeMoCrAcY is more important than anything and everything, right?

[-] stown@sedd.it 0 points 1 year ago

Come on, you play right into their bullshit propaganda with that message. If they go low we don't stoop to their level. We do not win elections by removing voting rights for those we disagree with - that is an authoritarian tactic.

[-] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

"sure, we let fascism run rampant over society, but that was the respectable thing to do"

[-] BunkerBusterKeaton@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

there isn't really any 'nobility' in 'taking the high road' while marginalized communities continue to get owned and killed. Trans kids are being targeted, women are being targeted, BIPOC are being targeted.

what good is civility? authoritarian leftism is the only way to get results

[-] Raphael@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Another W for capitalism, another L for the worker class.

[-] zombuey@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

most of what's happening in todays world is not a W for capitalism. Modern conservative thoughts on capitalism have long abandoned the necessary regulation of free markets we enforced for 2 centuries. capitalism only works if markets continually divide winners at the top. If you don't bust monopolies then capitalism begins to rapidly break down. We've known that for a long time and only recently stopped. You lose all the benefits of capitalism without that feature. What we have in America isn't capitalism really at all anymore. This whole concept that the government has no role in capitalism and free markets will always correct themselves is a myth and we've known that since before America. John Locke knew that he was a tax collector for the english crown.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

A very poor application of standing doctrine. Kagan cuts right to the heart of it when she asks "Where is MOHELA" as well as if anyone honestly thinks Missouri is there over MOHELA losing some fees. Heck, MOHELA wanted nothing to do with the suit and that the payments Missouri claimed MOHELA made back actually were never paid.

Then the recurrence of the "major questions doctrine," this invented idea that lets them throw out the plain text when they disagree.

That said, I did disagree with the plan. It was poorly targeted, hitting wealthier grads that still had loans, while ignoring poor people that never went in the first place, or were frugal and had limited loans. As someone that saw the Great Recession hit just after graduation, I wonder where my relief was from that emergency, as my lifetime earning took a massive hit, all while still having to pay my loans, with not so much as a payment pause or interest forbearance. To me, it was a thinly veiled attempt to buy votes for the midterm. Had it any other goal, Biden wouldn't have waited so long.

[-] Spacebar@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Vote! Encourage those around you to vote. Help drive someone to the polls. If you know a young person who's never voted, get them to vote.

Don't care who they vote for, just get them to the ballot box.

The more people vote, the better things turn out for the majority.

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